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    Anonymous
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    It appears that some people are asking awkward questions about draconic material. Does anyone know if …. Oh I don’t know …. some idiots chipped teeth out of the two skulls in the basement of Larissa’s Vault? I know there has been at least some speculation that the piles of skulls were the collection of one or more VO who might come back to visit.

    Please tell me none of you are wrapped up in this.

    Tukufu

    #265204
    Anonymous
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    Ah, Good Ambassador. While I may be reckless and heedless of danger at times, I enjoy having my
    body in one good looking piece. I’ve been known to liberate small items and I admit to picking up curiosities now and again, but even I know better than to take a dragon skull from the collection of one who would even *have* a dragon skull. I have heard similar stories, however, and it troubles me as well, though I imagine not as much as those who took the skulls.

    John

    #265206
    frootsnax
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    My understanding is that the 2 skulls were too big to easily get out. But that some people took teeth…

    ::whistle whistle::

    Anyone seen Kavaris recently?

    #265208
    Anonymous
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    but even I know better than to take a dragon skull from the collection of one who would even *have* a dragon skull.

    Ah, but it was our understanding that these were Dragons, with a capital D, a few of the 12. Thus we knew who had slain them – Valinor during the time of the dragon war in the first empire, and left overs of that time. Not something gathered in the time in between. I had never even thought of that room as a… collection before. That changes my perception of it, if it is correct. But who would have a collection like that in such a place? I have since learned that we were mislead on our understanding of those skulls, and that they were simply drake skulls, not Dragon skulls. Quite a let down let me tell you, but opening up all kinds of possibilities for what went on there – and who the collector was. I will have to think on that a bit. Any thoughts from you colleagues?

    I do know that some people did take pieces of those skulls, and while I don’t have an interest in returning there right now, I do have an interest in talking with those that might have taken pieces, for my own research, you understand, though I do have reason to believe it might be helpful to them as well.

    -Kavaris

    #265210
    frootsnax
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    Well Kavaris,

    The way I put the dots together I figure it goes something like this:

    (1) the was a gar shaman who was consistently described as weilding entropic psionics.
    (2) The VO sometimes empower thier “slaves”
    (3) There are stories of the VO boring holes through skulls to get at and consume brains.
    (4) There was a huge collection of skulls … The humanoid ones with signs of holes bored through them….
    (5) There tunnels connecting the Vault to the Endless Dark.

    So best guess, there is some kind of VO skull collector who decided that the Vault was a safe place to stash his/her (it’s?) collection. And at least a few people decided to “defile” it. I wonder how long till the collector discovers what happened? Or what actions it make take in revenge….

    -T

    #265211
    Anonymous
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    Well Kavaris,

    The way I put the dots together I figure it goes something like this:

    (1) the was a gar shaman who was consistently described as weilding entropic psionics.
    (2) The VO sometimes empower thier “slaves”
    (3) There are stories of the VO boring holes through skulls to get at and consume brains.
    (4) There was a huge collection of skulls … The humanoid ones with signs of holes bored through them….
    (5) There tunnels connecting the Vault to the Endless Dark.

    So best guess, there is some kind of VO skull collector who decided that the Vault was a safe place to stash his/her (it’s?) collection. And at least a few people decided to “defile” it. I wonder how long till the coll vote discovers what happened? Or what actions it make tak in revenge….

    -T

    We did not significantly investigate the humanoid skulls, I guess. I had missed that they had holes bored in them. That is… worrisome. But I do have a question about point 1. How are entropic psionics noticeably different than normal psionics? Or is assumed to be entropic because the gar are not normally psionic at all? Or are there specific psionic abilities known to be associated with entropy?

    #265212
    frootsnax
    Participant

    Yes the gar are not psionic. In fact nothing but Val’s and Ssanus *should* be psionic. And a few Val’s pretending to be human. That category always worries me a little bit because that looks a lot like a human pawn of “oblivion” with entropic Psionics …. Ahem.

    So that’s a great tip off.

    But the aura of psychic screaming is/was the real give away.

    Always check the huge pile of skulls for cause of death….

    -T

    #265213
    Anonymous
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    Yes the gar are not psionic. In fact nothing but Val’s and Ssanus *should* be psionic. And a few Val’s pretending to be human. That category always worries me a little bit because that looks a lot like a human pawn of “oblivion” with entropic Psionics …. Ahem.
    -T

    I am a little wary of assuming anything with psionics that isn’t a Val or Ssanu must be entropic. It seems there may be other ways (transplanted organs, biomancy, unknown sources) of psionics as well. Or difficulty differentiating psionics from other unknown sources of magic. And should those il’Huan be on the list of those psionicically endowed? As for the Val pretending to be human… yes, you should be careful of that. I know it is done on a regular basis by some. \":)\"

    But the aura of psychic screaming is/was the real give away. -T

    Ahhh, now that would be a tell. I thought from past letters that that was a power of the VO themselves. I didn’t realize they could bequeath that power as well. Or does that imply that there was a VO somewhere nearby the empowered Gar? Or do all that have been gifted with power by the VO produce such a scream?

    As for the holes in the skulls, I knew nothing of the VO at the time that I entered the Vault of Larissa, so holes would have meant nothing to me. We assumed the room was magically preserved from the time of the first empire because it had the skulls from some of the actual Dragons killed by Valinor. We assumed nothing had killed Dragons since then. Imagine my surprise to find later that all our information was wrong and they were only drakes. Still very interesting, but no way near the importance of a find of a Dragon skull. And even here we talk about having taken Dragon teeth, when the proper term should be drake teeth, is that correct?

    #265233
    frootsnax
    Participant

    Well you have me on the matter of the Il’Huan. The giant beetle men do wield powerful psionics by all accounts. Still I hope we can agree that they’re presumably obvious if you meet one. No cases of mistaken identity.

    The provenance of discovered items is often contentious. I personally think the uncovered skulls are small for a real dragon and so suspect that they are indeed “merely” drake skulls. That said I personally do not know how to tell a gigantic drake skull from one of the twelve True Dragons … and I am skeptical of any scholar who claims to definitively have that answer. Unless you have a special source of information I would encourage considering both possibilities.

    -T

    #267272
    frootsnax
    Participant

    Dear Kavaris,

    It seems there is an Inquisitor looking for someone named Sisko val’Borda. I mention this because it seems Sisko had one of these drakes or dragons teeth. Did you ever meet Sisko in your quest to find out more about the teeth? I only ask because the society sometimes bumps up against the Inquisition. Doing them a favor by giving them information about Sisko could come back to help us down the road.

    Yours in haste,

    Tukufu

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