Is Encali Dwarf Ranger possible?

I believe it is supposed to lead into “Sorcerer-Priest” as a source. Will need the full book when it comes out.

Seems like my idea is mute anyway… As I missed the generic dwarf feature which limited them to Divine Arcana instead… No dwarven rangers/Druids can exist for the current sub-races

I think the question still needs to be answered.
Perhaps cantrips should be excluded from the Arcana rule?

Yes, it does seem to still need to be answered because by this reading Encali dwarves cannot be clerics, divine champions, or paladins since they all already have access to arcane spellcasting to begin with, and thus none can have access to divine.

By this reading, multiple races would have restrictions based on cantrips that they receive : aka val’Mehans would also be blocked to Divine and Primal classes, Ardakene would only have access to Divine, Kelekene only have access to Arcane, val’Assante only Divine, val’Tensen – etc.

But I don’t think that that is the intention.

The way that I feel that the rules are intended:

Solani Dwarves – Divine Casting classes
Encali Dwarves – Divine and Arcane Casting classes
val’Mehan – All classes

Just because you get a cantrip as a part of your race, does not restrict you only to casting classes related to that cantrip.

Lucas

Supporting the view that cantrips and racial abilities do not count as an Arcanum (for rules purposes) is the Primer. Important definitions bolded.

If you are a spell caster you may not utilize either the Magic Initiate or Ritual Caster feat to learn spells from an opposed Arcanum (arcane, divine, or primal) of magic. For example, if you are a wizard you cannot take Ritual Caster to learn divine rituals.

Choosing these feats also restricts your multiclass options. If you choose to learn a divine spell and cantrips though the Magic Initiate feat you are no longer able to multiclass into any arcane spellcasting class or take an archetype which grants arcane spell casting.

It appears that characters are not locked until they take one of the classes listed on Pg.45 or either of the above feats.

Encali still can’t take Druid, Ranger or Warlock (Spirits Patron) due to racial restrictions.

val’Mehan are still a (conceptual) problem but they don’t actually get the Ritual Caster feat for their blood power, working around the listed Arcanum restriction. However, if they are not taking Sorcerer-Priest as their source, the PC should be burned at the stake as a heretic anyway.

To expand on this question slightly, do any of these racial elements trigger the Hunted by Ymandragore trait (hereafter HbY)?

Encali Dwarves specifically have “Arcane” Training. Val’Mehan cast Wizard rituals and Wizard/Warlock cantrips. Kelekene cast Fire Bolt (an Arcane cantrip). Are all these races HbY based on race even if they otherwise mundane?

If taking Magic Initiate or Ritual Caster for Wizard locks you into the Arcane side of the Arcanum, does it also trigger the HbY trait too?

What about classes that don’t mention the trait, are not traditional spellcasters, but get spells like Totem Barbarian or Monk of the Four Elements? Totem Barbarian would probably be Primal anyway, but MotFE certainly uses their Ki to manifest otherwise Arcane spells. Are any of these classes HbY despite not having the Spellcasting class feature?

While all that is true, and Harvesters in any particular mod may go after any of those groups, there are specific rules attached to the HbY trait.

People with that trait must track their Harvester notice points, possibly triggering a Harvesting encounter. People with that trait are taken if the encounter goes poorly while others are merely “left for dead.”

Add the already mentioned multiclassing restrictions certainly make this something that needs further guidance.

No one official, but this is my take:

Sorcerer-Priests have never been targeted in the past and are not now targeted in the A:RPG rule set. While this could maybe change in 5E I wouldn’t expect it too. I believe that SP is “divine enough” that if your faith in Sarish is broken, then you can’t effectively cast spells. Which would make them of little use to the aisle. And … If nothing else Loshnek seems to spend a goodly amount of time in a Cold Peace monitoring the Isle of Tears and its “Tyrant” … and I believe he likely gets irritated when harvesters remove “his pawns.”

Using a feat to tap into arcane IMO should also attract the attention of Harvesters.

IMO Val Mehan should not be Hunted for gaining cantrips/spells through bloodline abilities. It’s mostly biological and (IMO) there are no potential breakthroughs there on the road to immortality. (Maybe once upon a time there were, but capturing and “eating” a valinor has to trump this to the umpteeth degree).

I think the Encali are the toughest to offer an opinion on. It seems their magic is learned and not inate. That argues that Ymandragore might be interested in them if they were Eldritch casters. That said I believe Sorcerer-Priests are not hunted. So if their powers come out of the SP tradition (which seems possible) then I believe they aren’t widely hunted.