unarmed attack and Runes

Hi

Just a question for the ARG ruleset

If a character is a pugilist, specializing in unarmed combat is there an option for the acquisition of weapon runes.

There is the option of gauntlet, etc but that will take more training in a new weapon so I was looking to see if there is an option of someone just using his fists.

In FiM it mentions that Fine or Exceptional clothing can be used for Armor runes. Is there a ruling for the use of gloves for the same effect?
I’m nobody official, but I tried building something similar. I didn’t find any character-customization options that helped much. Item-wise, FiM page 17 details the Bands of Iron Might, which will do the trick most directly. I haven’t seen a way for an ARG PC to acquire those in the adventures I’ve played, but I’ve missed a lot.

Good luck!

I was looking more at what could be used for weapon runes

There are a couple of magical gloves in FiM that specifically state that weapon runes can be added but can you do the same for non-magical gloves?

There is the option of gauntlet, etc but that will take more training in a new weapon so I was looking to see if there is an option of someone just using his fists.

What additional training do they require? They run off the unarmed combat skill. If you want the weapon tricks, you need to take proficiency with them, but without the proficiency it is just like unarmed, unless you plan on dramatically increasing your unarmed damage by buffs (claws of the beast or body of the warrior, etc) which either might preclude gauntlets or just not scale up with the damage of the spell.

As stated in Forged in Magic pg.5 armor runes may be placed on appropriate quality garb, not weapon runes.

Hi Josh

As mentioned before, I am not really interested in heading down the path of cestus or Gauntlets as I will need to take weapon training and weapon mastery talents for them that I already have for unarmed.

Its no biggy, I just thought I would see if there is a option for the Pugilist.

Cheers

I also fight using unarmed and have Body of the Warrior, but I am trained with a gauntlet because baring any magic I often find it difficult for the unarmed damage die from Body of the Warrior to exceed the helpfulness of having a fervidite gauntlet. That (usually) +3 damage from the gauntlet turns the d4 damage die into approximately the equivalent of a d10 unarmed from Body of the Warrior – and that’s without adding in the lost action/strain of often having to cast Body of the Warrior (or getting a much lower bump from it by combining it with Shape Change to make it a Binding).

I’ve found being trained in the Gauntlet to be very useful as grasp the blade can occasionally be cool, and mighty swing is amazing – especially as it replaces your prowess for the attack roll with your might.

And all that is without taking into account the possibility of putting a damaging rune (frost/fire/necrotic) that would essentially drive your average damage up by one die, a rune like an avalanche rune that would help buff one big hit, or putting a exceptional rune to allow you to attack ghostly creatures, or a celerity rune to reduce your recovery from combat maneuvers.

As stated in Forged in Magic pg.5 armor runes may be placed on appropriate quality garb, not weapon runes.

Item quality is no longer a thing and Forged In Magic – Reforged says nothing about allowing runes on clothing (gloves/shirts). I think this is an oversight as it means a Sorc won’t ever be using an Armour Rune, and an unarmed fighter won’t ever be using a Weapon Rune, but that is rules as written.This is where having two different rule sets & catalogues of Books creates some confusion. In the ARP rule set there is a Forged in Magic (and a Forged in Magic 2…). Its these books that are being quoted. Item quality is a big deal in the ARP rule set. Reforged is for the 5E ruleset. And I believe that you are correct that there isn’t anything said about unarmed fighters etc etc… That said there is nothing to stop a module writer from added non-standard (but hopefully balanced0 loot to an adventure.