This is from the Codex Arcanis pg 2. Written from the perspective of what the Church tells the common man. Except for your last sentence. Your last sentence is from an another source. That is from the attack on Akrosia and after. The Valinor were a big help in defeating Elder Elorii. The Fall of Akrosia is discussed in 3 places: 1 old campaign module, the printed book The Carnival of Swords, and with the Serentity of Beltine. So you probably got it from one of those sources.


Between 50 and 60 years old val'Inares [SPOILERS] Also they feel an urge to travel through an Ansharan Gate to...somewhere. The family just says everyone over certain age becomes ill, eventually dying.

If Kassegore did join the PoM before they came to Onara, then his Val family hasn't shown to have the same tell. Which means he never did join the PoM, or he perfected his children while Yig couldn't. Althares and Yarris are the two best options if Kassegore did join the PoM.

Hello,

Sorry Vault, but I had to edit your answer as it dealt with information that would be considered major spoilers to a lot of players.

In the the module LA-SP4-15 Secret's of the Serpent's Teeth there is also an abandoned underwater Val'Ossan city found with pre-imperial architecture. This contradicts the timeline on Val creation as being during the imperial time period. How can it be Val'Ossan and pre-imperial?

Maybe I'm missing the details, but where does it say that the val'Ossan city is older than the Imperium? I see mention of Valossa, but if memory serves Valossa waned AFTER the First Imperium was founded.

Maybe I'm looking at a draft copy or something, because in mine there is no mention of the term Valossa. But on page 7, second column, third paragraph after box text, it says, "A DC 10 Knowledge (History), a DC 20 Knowledge (Architecture) or a DC 20 Bardic Knowledge check
reveals that the architecture is pre-Imperium."

No problem Henry. When I posted it, I knew we weren't in the Spoilers thread, but I figured I'd answer the question with more detail anyway. Thank you.

Ah LA-SP4-15 Secret's of the Serpent's Teeth. I wondered about this mention of the valossan empire. And with the recent release of the History of Blessed Lands the wheels in my head continue to turn.
Valossa was a Ssethric city located in the center of where the Pirates Isles are now. It was created after the Elorii initiated their coup, by a group of Yigites that fled. The land was destroyed when a Cult of the Unspeakable One attempted to summon the Unspeakable One onto Onara. This also made the Pirates Isles what they are today.
Valossan Empire was the small empire they had going in the area. Note these are the Ssethrics who would have used the Pengik as slaves. Any snake/Ssethric mention in the Hinterlands could be pointed back to this Empire.
val'Ossan- the Val family that was created by a Valinor of Yarris.
Ossarion Empire- This Empire was mentioned in the new Blessed Lands History as an enemy of the First Imperium. With many mysteries attached to them. Like where they were located and what happened to them when they were defeated.

Anyway back to the module. On pg 6 in the adventure summary it mentions the tunnels being explored are from the time of Valossan Empire.
On pg 7 it states that PC can catch an overview glimpse of the val'Ossan cities sunken below the tunnels.
Also on pg 7 it states the city is pre-Imperium, and that there are prayers to the God of the Seas written on the walls.

Thank you val Holryn for pointing this out. I hadn't given this a read after I purchased it because I never had a player interested in an Ehtzara. You are absolutely correct the secret history shown here is quite shocking. Most importantly it gives another perspective of what happened when the human gods came to Onara besides the Elorii and the human version.

On the one hand its a little hard to trust information that's allegedly passed from a talking mouse to a talking jackal to the first Ehtzartas. Come to think of it, only an idiot believes everything an Ehtzarta says too. And the story presented is not on four corners with some other material ...

Still. Very interesting stuff.

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It has the tantalizing merit of being very specific, which imo ups the possible impact of it's inaccuracies.

The Vault: Arkhosian history shows up in Pebbles Upon Still Water IIRC. It's possible to find and talk to a Kurenthe`-cursed Eloran spirit who says something about being unable to move on until "honor is restored."
My guess is either the ejection of the Pit that moved in or War of Vengeance.