Dark Kin – Wings of the Fiend (Talent)

I dislike dark-kin

Wings of the Val should be changed to Scene though

Even so, having just seen what Clumsy does, that means that for those 12 ticks all you do is fly. You can’t even attack or anything.

In all seriousness, is the Talent supposed to be that debilitating at Tier V?

John

to be fair wings needs to be tweaked.. it IS far too weak..

but that’s a discussion fro another day

That’s cool I didn’t expect it in this update. It’ll be a while before I’m Tier V Thanks!

John

I dislike dark-kin

Wings of the Val should be changed to Scene though
Valinor Wings and Shapechange are binding spells, and even if they were scene spells, an entire scene, every scene, is still all day.

True… BUT it eats up an action.. every scene..

also you have strain to deal with….

Hello,

Just keep in mind, it was always our intention to limit flight and keep it to a Movement Only action. I don’t want to have players to be able to fly or hover and attack at the same time.

Henry,
That’s good to know. I am curious then why does it cost so much to get Flight then if it’s only meant as a ‘movement only’ for such limited times? A lot of the options aren’t available until Tier III or higher (the dark kin version Tier V). Without any options for casting, buffing, attacking, or anything really makes it a ‘convenience’ and it would stand to reason that it could be given earlier in those cases and at a much lower opportunity cost.
Does this mean that enemies won’t be able to Fly and attack either? If they can fly and attack players will have no options with which to respond, since many spells only go 30′ in a lot of cases.
That said, does the Osalikene ability need reviewed? They get Perfect Flight at Tier III.

John

Henry
Thanks for chiming in. My question about the Elorii was mainly because it goes against what you said the intention was. If it was the intention that only Elorii get to fly and attack, that’s cool for them.
As for monsters, the main reason I bring it up is that if monsters can do things which PC’s have no way to defeat, then the monsters need to be used very sparingly as ‘big bads’ or it becomes a very deadly encounter for the players. Imagine a group of flying monsters with ranged attacks raining arrows down on the party out of reach of the melee characters and the casters with 30-60′ range on their spells. Granted, players can use ranged weapons but without the right training, it would be fairly ineffectual. I’m sure PCI is aware of these issues, of course, but it doesn’t hurt to mention it occasionally.
John

That’s makes me feel better to that the intent is to not have shape change and Valinor Wings reign supreme.

Shape change and Valinors wings aren’t in danger of that with clumsy maneuverability. You can rest easy knowing Osalikene Elorii will rule the skies.

John

Yeah I can see that. Anything that’s more than 12 – 24 ticks a scene would need limited in actions or you would have armies if aerial troops.

John