5th edition primer comments and questions

A few other things to clean up that I noticed as well on the first read.

1. Cleric section; Illiir = Male only, Saluwe = Female only (will save some angst later).
2. List of Legions under Legionnaire; Legion of Heaven’s Blade should be removed from the ‘primer’ due to the current status of that Legion. Again, will save some background issues for new players. (ie: PCs under 40 couldn’t be from that legion as they were elsewhere).

No that’s fine. The 5E campaign is starting at the beginning of the Coming of the Destroyer story arc, so no issues there.

Which may generate some interesting problems for Astra as the plot develops…

I’m sure we’ll find more later. Since I don’t have or play 5E, I have no idea what half the rules stuff means yet.

Just did a quick reading of the primer. It looks great, and I’m already looking forward to this coming spring for the kickstarter.

I did notice a few errors in the primer, mostly minor.

Page 21: New Material references state new spells on p. 33 and new equipment on p. 36. Pages should be 53 and 56, respectively.
Page 21: A word on literacy. It refers to backgrounds on p. 27, but backgrounds is on p. 47.
Page 21: For languages for Dark-Kin it says to see p. 36 for national languages. National languages are on p. 49.
Page 24: Subraces refers to Kelelene. The reference should be to the Kelekene.
Page 26: Skill versatility for humans references p. 37 for national skills. National skills are on p. 52.
Page 26: Language for humans references p. 36 for national languages. National languages are on p. 49.
Page 56: The table references Athenian flintlocks. Should be Altherian flintlocks.
Page 56: Lorica Segmentata does not indicate if it is light, medium, or heavy armor. It seems like it’d be medium armor, being like half-plate, but more expensive and without the disadvantage to stealth.

Questions:

Any chance for a form-fillable character sheet?
I’m assuming we’ll be seeing more bloodline powers at higher ranks in the forthcoming rpg? If so:
I’m kicking myself for not backing the 5e Forged in Magic kickstarter. When will this be out in pdf/print?

I’ll add to this post if I see any more errors, and thanks again for producing this for 5e!

Hello Iltharanos and Akira,

I think Iltharanos (welcome to the forums!) is referring to the fact that the Primer only offers four Val familes.

In answer to Iltharanos’ question all the Val families, elorii, and dwarves, along with a lot of other material will be in the Arcanis 5E rpg book.

Thank you for the errors found – we’ll get those fixed asap.

This is a little of topic, but… I notice how in 5e there is the primal casting distinct from arcane and divine. This obviously seems to simplify some things that have been complicated in the past. I also find it interesting that in the core book of the ARG there are 2 references to the talent “spiritual awakening” that was apparently replaced by arcane spellcasting (primal), indicating that in some stage primal was probably not going to be lumped in with arcane spellcasting in the ARG either, but that was changed.

Was that combining of primal with arcane in the ARG a story based decision (there is some reason they should be together in the campaign and 5e is wrong with this clear separation) or a rules simplification/rules reason (i.e. expediency for creating the product without creating an entire 3rd class of casting to have to write about). In other words, is 5e fixing a point of confusion in the ARG, or is it in some way breaking it?

Either way, it would be nice to have the rules agree, since it will be weird for Entzara to be hunted by Ymandragore in the ARG version of the game, but not in the 5e version of the game. Is the new Ssethregore book going to address this “primal confusion” at all?

Ken,

This is just a primer – a taste of what will be forthcoming.

If you notice, there are no rules for psionics. That will be in the full book.

There will be differences with how each rule system interprets the setting. I wouldn’t compare and contrast one against the other as a way to glean story elements.