Anshar – some questions on followers

from everything else it appears that the possible release of Umor trapped in the dark moon would be favored by the silence, it seems that it is unlikely that Kassegore is the silence or Umor. It also convinced me that Umor isn’t misunderstood, he really is the big bad end of the world to the Silence. It doesn’t answer who he was in relationship to the PoM […]
The Other (Umor) is the greatest threat the world has ever faced, and even with the Gods of the Pantheon directly present and united together, the good guys barely won. Several of us agree about inferring from the stories that the Other is now imprisoned in the Dark Moon Aperio. It’s less clear whether or how the Other is connected with Entropy, but it seems like he could be some sort of ally (in at least the enemy-of-my-enemy sense) of the Silence.

(We’ve diverted from the original discussion topic of this thread, but consideration of these points is an intellectual exercise and something that distinguishes Arcanis from all the standard fantasy RPG worlds that spell everything out in the sourcebooks.)

from everything else it appears that the possible release of Umor trapped in the dark moon would be favored by the silence, it seems that it is unlikely that Kassegore is the silence or Umor. It also convinced me that Umor isn’t misunderstood, he really is the big bad end of the world to the Silence. It doesn’t answer who he was in relationship to the PoM […]
The Other (Umor) is the greatest threat the world has ever faced, and even with the Gods of the Pantheon directly present and united together, the good guys barely won. Several of us agree about inferring from the stories that the Other is now imprisoned in the Dark Moon Aperio. It’s less clear whether or how the Other is connected with Entropy, but it seems like he could be some sort of ally (in at least the enemy-of-my-enemy sense) of the Silence.

(We’ve diverted from the original discussion topic of this thread, but consideration of these points is an intellectual exercise and something that distinguishes Arcanis from all the standard fantasy RPG worlds that spell everything out in the sourcebooks.)

Question: Was Umor the most dangerous threat to the world, or to the Pantheon, or even to the coming domination of mankind? All we really know is that the Pantheon of Man believed him to be evil, but since the victor writes history, we cannot be sure

Here’s a thought: Who’s to say that agents of the Silence are spreading false rumors and prophecies to throw us off our game? Deception and misinformation are old tools of warfare and politics. I could be completely wrong here but it’s something worth thinking about.

Yes, I was a bit thrown by this as well. Belisarda met with Umor, and apparently did something to help him. It’s unknown what, but I like the idea that it was helping make a new race together, since that is where her expertise seems to lie. But the Elorii teachings and prophecy is that Umor warned her about the coming of the Silence, and that we would need to work together to defeat it. That really didn’t sound like he was a servant of the entropy, does it? That was why I originally thought he might have been fighting the PoM about how to go about fighting the Silence – you know, just different methods – like “I consume you all, and then as one super god I have the power to defeat the Silence.” Not something you would expect them to support, but also not necessarily wrong.

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Additionally, I believe it was the Aii believers that believe there is only one god, and all the PoM are just aspects of parts him – including Umor. And thus, the PoM kind of went crazy when the bound Umor, because they imprisoned a portion of themselves. Our only exposure to this faith seemed to be a pretty benevolent guy. So the idea that this could be a possibility seemed reasonable too, since we believe this is kind of how the Issori religion appeared to work as well.

And finally, if the Kio were his servants, we haven’t seen any indication that they are evil or in league with entropic forces, so that would also seem to indicate he could be not terribly, unrepentantly evil.

So I was really thinking I was on to something about Umor being, “Not That Bad” (NTB). I read the really cool ancient prophecy of Kassegore and thought – the dark on dealing with the enemies of creation and causing the breaking could be someone else. (I was thinking the sorcerer king, since it’s believed he had a soldier of entropy on hand the last time someone dared explore the Isle) But then I saw the prophecy about what happened if Menatas won – and Umor being freed from the moon killing everything and bringing the Silence. That was pretty much a deal killer to me. And apparently its past that point in time that looking drove Larissa mad. And voiceless ones in the future work magic making it harder to divine the future, and cloud their activities from detection. That all looked pretty bad for Umor.

I would love to hear if there is some way that others reconcile that.

I would love to hear if there is some way that others reconcile that.
The combination of stories we have are all a jumbled mess. Maybe there are mistakes, misunderstandings, omissions, deceptions, and/or lies mixed in there.

In Arcanis?? Surely you jest!