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    I’d bet the Myrantians had enough magical mojo to make them a hard target and they decided to just let them be. That’s the only explanation I can come up with. Just to be clear these Myrantians are not the ones that fought with the First Imperium? I believe that was the empire further south across the Lauriol Sea. This batch got run out for being to heretical even for the original Myrantians as I recall. So maybe they did have some funky magic (tentacles and all that \";)\" that gave their opponents pause. Otherwise I would think the Ssethregorans and Malfelans would have tag-teamed them to death. On the other hand maybe the Myrantians could have played the two nations off each other. But that seems unlikely to me.

    Well, keep in mind as well that the Myrantians didn’t worship the PoM, and may be Savosh vs Mandai. So the Malfelan’s may have had less “ax to grind” with them, if they see that level of nuance in humans, since they were not related to the great Betrayal.

    As for the relationship with the Ssethregorans, there has always been the question that both the Ssethregoran’s and the Myrantian’s reportedly come from continents to the south. Same continent? Inquiring minds want to know! If so, there may already be some relationship between the empires.

    #271935
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    I’d bet the Myrantians had enough magical mojo to make them a hard target and they decided to just let them be. That’s the only explanation I can come up with. Just to be clear these Myrantians are not the ones that fought with the First Imperium? I believe that was the empire further south across the Lauriol Sea. This batch got run out for being to heretical even for the original Myrantians as I recall. So maybe they did have some funky magic (tentacles and all that \";)\" that gave their opponents pause. Otherwise I would think the Ssethregorans and Malfelans would have tag-teamed them to death. On the other hand maybe the Myrantians could have played the two nations off each other. But that seems unlikely to me.

    Well, keep in mind as well that the Myrantians didn’t worship the PoM, and may be Savosh vs Mandai. So the Malfelan’s may have had less “ax to grind” with them, if they see that level of nuance in humans, since they were not related to the great Betrayal.

    As for the relationship with the Ssethregorans, there has always been the question that both the Ssethregoran’s and the Myrantian’s reportedly come from continents to the south. Same continent? Inquiring minds want to know! If so, there may already be some relationship between the empires.

    That sir is an interesting point. We know humans on Onara predate the coming of the Pantheon. It’s possible the Elorri don’t have a beef with “those” humans as they did not “betray” them. Some of them may well have been “subjects” of their empire. That such humans existed is suggested by the accounts on pages 13-14 of the Blessed Lands book. As for the Ssethregoran angle that has yet to be determined. Given the fact that all mammals are on the menu, I’m not sure how the Ssethregorans would have friendly relations with any humans. Maybe the two southern empires did fight and perhaps to a standstill and a cold war developed. When the new Ssethregorans find “Myrantians” on their northern border they might confuse them with their southern cousins and leave them alone for fear of retribution. I agree there has to be some reason they were left alone by their neighbors. At this point we just don’t know why.

    #271936
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    That sir is an interesting point. We know humans on Onara predate the coming of the Pantheon. It’s possible the Elorri don’t have a beef with “those” humans as they did not “betray” them. Some of them may well have been “subjects” of their empire. That such humans existed is suggested by the accounts on pages 13-14 of the Blessed Lands book. As for the Ssethregoran angle that has yet to be determined. Given the fact that all mammals are on the menu, I’m not sure how the Ssethregorans would have friendly relations with any humans. Maybe the two southern empires did fight and perhaps to a standstill and a cold war developed. When the new Ssethregorans find “Myrantians” on their northern border they might confuse them with their southern cousins and leave them alone for fear of retribution. I agree there has to be some reason they were left alone by their neighbors. At this point we just don’t know why.

    Well, also note that according to the Blessed Lands Book pg 29, that Leonydus paid the Kraldjur a visit during his time in power. It is possible that the Myrantians from around the time of terror were living in a time period when the Ssethregorans were recovering from his “visit.” I find it interesting that we’ve never heard about this visit before. It seems like it would have been…. epic.

    #271937
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    Within the modern age of the past millennium, Ssethregorans have at least twice tried to use the Myrantians for a coup. The best known is the successful Abessian rebellion of 1027 IC. Less known is the secret involvement of ssanu in Old Toranesta with the failed attempt to take over the Coryani Empire via Emperor Marellius and Patriarch Hulantin in what turned into the Day of Exile in 374 IC. Both examples lead me to suspect that Ssethregorans were using Myrantians rather than working intentionally alongside them.

    From another front, it’s possible that my deeper suspicions may be correct on the subtle meaning of the Abessian rebellion’s message about “We are the Aleph and the Nol”: “(” and “)“. When combined, those two symbols make a circle, possibly a rubrik or an ourobous.

    #271938
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    Well, also note that according to the Blessed Lands Book pg 29, that Leonydus paid the Kraldjur a visit during his time in power. It is possible that the Myrantians from around the time of terror were living in a time period when the Ssethregorans were recovering from his “visit.” I find it interesting that we’ve never heard about this visit before. It seems like it would have been…. epic.

    It’s possible (based on my read of the text) that he was merely putting down revolts against his rule and not actually campaigning against the Sseth. Still I doubt they wanted to take him on. Talk about epic heartburn! \":)\" Need a really big Tums for that one. \":lol:\"

    #271939
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    It’s possible (based on my read of the text) that he was merely putting down revolts against his rule and not actually campaigning against the Sseth. Still I doubt they wanted to take him on. Talk about epic heartburn! \":)\" Need a really big Tums for that one. \":lol:\"

    Who would revolt against his rule in the Kraldjur morass? I wonder if he was putting down an invasion of some sort. But remember, according to the stories of the Altherans, the Altheran peninsula was reasonably unpopulated when they arrived, so there shouldn’t have been anyone there for him to fight (unless he depopulated the peninsula). It also raises the question as to whether modern day Torenestra was First Emperium territory or not, for him to be involved in fighting there.

    #271940
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    We know through various sources that the First Imperium stretched into at least modern day Cafela and Milandir, and evidence to support it extended into modern Salantis as well. It is possible it also stretched into the modern Abessian Dominions and even the Altherian Peninsula.

    I should also point out that the First Imperium fell over a century before the Myrantian Hegemony was FOUNDED, which means that the Myrantians from the south didn’t colonize the area until central authority in the region had disintegrated. The question at that point would be, however, why didn’t Ssethregore (or Malfela?!) invade the now shattered Imperium like Elonbe’ did during the Reconquista? Why did the Ssethrics (and Malfelans) allow Myrantian colonization so deep within their spheres of influence? The bulk of the Hegemony was in what is now the Coryani Empire, streching from Sulphecci to Panari, but their capital was so deep into the swamps I find it suspect.

    #271945
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    It’s possible (based on my read of the text) that he was merely putting down revolts against his rule and not actually campaigning against the Sseth. Still I doubt they wanted to take him on. Talk about epic heartburn! \":)\" Need a really big Tums for that one. \":lol:\"

    Who would revolt against his rule in the Kraldjur morass? I wonder if he was putting down an invasion of some sort. But remember, according to the stories of the Altherans, the Altheran peninsula was reasonably unpopulated when they arrived, so there shouldn’t have been anyone there for him to fight (unless he depopulated the peninsula). It also raises the question as to whether modern day Torenestra was First Emperium territory or not, for him to be involved in fighting there.

    Sorry I should have been more clear. I think what Henry was saying in essence was that Leonydes was putting out revolts from one end of the Imperium to the other.

    #272754
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    28) Now that we have information about the Hunnai and the worship of the Three Sisters in the Blessed Lands book, would the elorii consider their worship to be an affront? Near as we have been told the elorii only accept Belisarda and that she is THEIR goddess. I can only imagine they may be taken aback by a group of humans worshiping Her, as well as insisting she is only one of three related goddesses.

    #272761
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    28) Now that we have information about the Hunnai and the worship of the Three Sisters in the Blessed Lands book, would the elorii consider their worship to be an affront? Near as we have been told the elorii only accept Belisarda and that she is THEIR goddess. I can only imagine they may be taken aback by a group of humans worshiping Her, as well as insisting she is only one of three related goddesses.

    Given that the Hunnai primarily exist as slaves in the known world, and elorii own few slaves given their history, it’s not that clear to me how much contact and knowledge exists of the Hunnai religion. The Hunnai apparently do not have priests in the trational sense it’s also true that you can’t get a life warden and a Hunnai priest together in one room to have a deep discussion of theology.

    My guess is the elorii that know of the Hunnia would probably equate them as “weird Undir.” They might see them as people who have the the right general idea but are pro give and have somethings wrong.

    That’s my guess

    #273184
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    29) What ‘ethnicity’ are the val’Haupt? Their name suggest German, which could mean Gothic, but they live among the Yhing Hir which could suggest Turkic or Mongolian features. Is there anything which states which?

    30) Is there any public word on the status of the various val’Sosi scions in the greater universe beyond the Brood of Ven? Is there any word of them settling in Coryan, Almeric, or Milandir (or elsewhere) like the surviving val’Vasik’s have found a home (somewhere) in Milandir?

    #273189
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    I think the reason the val’Haupt are where they are had to do with the Blood War. As I recall from the Blessed Lands book they were mentioned as one of the bloodlines that survived because they hid in a remote corner of the First Imperium.

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