Chargen questions – PARADIGM CONCEPTS

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April 19, 2017 at 4:21 am #152602
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Just want to confirm that my reading of the Primer and the PHB is correct (first experience with 5e):
1. The acolyte background loses both the bonus languages granted by the PHB and instead receives only a single language based on their church.
2. Val of noble birth whom take the Soldier background but replace its feature with the Noble background feature are still illiterate.
3. A val’Tensen noble acolyte with a 10 Int from Moratavia would most likely only know Milandisian, High Coryani, and Altharin, but she would be literate.
April 19, 2017 at 11:48 am #275051
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Nobody official, but this matches my reading of the rules, though I’d suggest Low Coryani instead of High Coryani.
April 19, 2017 at 11:33 pm #275059
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Just want to confirm that my reading of the Primer and the PHB is correct (first experience with 5e):
1. The acolyte background loses both the bonus languages granted by the PHB and instead receives only a single language based on their church.
2. Val of noble birth whom take the Soldier background but replace its feature with the Noble background feature are still illiterate.
3. A val’Tensen noble acolyte with a 10 Int from Moratavia would most likely only know Milandisian, High Coryani, and Altharin, but she would be literate.
Hi Heidi,
I’m no one on the official team, but I may be able to help answer your Q’s.
1). Yes, that seems to be the case.
2). Rules mechanics, you are correct, but it would not surprise me if this may change come the Arcanis 5e Players’ Guide when it releases (as well as one can give up a known language to gain literacy).
3). Correct.
April 20, 2017 at 12:51 am #275061
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To remind:
1) Milandisian is the vernacular language of Milandir and large parts of Almeric.
2) High Coryani is the “High” language of the Coryani Empire, derived from the dominant language of the city of Medea Tridueae (Old Coryan) when the Empire was founded. However, as the Empire expanded, while it continued to be the language of state, the common vernacular/trade tongue of the Empire became Low Coryani, which is more of a creole of the various languages of the Empire. Think of High Coryani as Latin in the middle ages, and Low Coryani as the various “Vulgur Latin” forms that eventually became French, Spanish, Romanian, etc.
3) Altherian is the “Mother Tongue” from which all major human languages descend and is the Gift of Althares to Man (one of the 12 given when the Gods left Onara). The Republic of Altheria has preserved the language, and it was the official ‘common tongue’ of the First Imperium. You could maybe equate this with Greek during the Middle Ages, but honestly a closer version in our world would be Proto-Indoeuropean.
April 20, 2017 at 4:12 am #275066
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+nods+ I recall. Basically, Milandisian is the national language, High Coryani is the free language (because as a noble I imagine that this is what she would speak most often – back in the d20 days the genry feat made any noble replace low coryani with high coryani as a free language, and they had to spend skill points for low coryani), and Altharin is the church language (from Acolyte). Plus literacy.
Not having low coryani is going to kinda suck though… might be forced to drop a more important stat to get two points into intelligence $\":(\"$ – but it would be hard to justify a noble not knowing the language of the nobility.
Nowhere near as many languages as could be had back in d20 when it was by skill points, and with feats only being once every four levels (and sacrificing important ability boosts to get them) extra languages will be hard to get. That’ll really enforce the class-divide.
Back in the days of d20, a speaker of low coryani and a speaker of high coryani couldn’t communicate. I imagine that that hasn’t changed? I can understand and support a decision either way on that.
May 7, 2017 at 3:01 pm #275163
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Just want to confirm that my reading of the Primer and the PHB is correct (first experience with 5e):
1. The acolyte background loses both the bonus languages granted by the PHB and instead receives only a single language based on their church.
2. Val of noble birth whom take the Soldier background but replace its feature with the Noble background feature are still illiterate.
3. A val’Tensen noble acolyte with a 10 Int from Moratavia would most likely only know Milandisian, High Coryani, and Altharin, but she would be literate.
1) No, that’s incorrect. The acolyte background gives you an additional language based on your church.
2) That is correct and we can update that. Noble birth should grant literacy. I will double check and make sure that is true and then add to the Primer if necessary.
3) Yep, that seems legit.
May 9, 2017 at 8:36 pm #275213
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In the PHB the Acolyte background receives two bonus languages of the player’s choosing. The primer states that any section (such as languages) replaces that section in the PHB background. It then lists only a single language (based on church) under Acolyte Languages.
Are you saying that Altherin (for Pantheon of Man) is meant to be an extra in addition to the two languages granted by Acolyte in the PHB?
May 10, 2017 at 2:51 am #275215
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Languages: You learn an additional language depending upon which pantheon your character served while in the church. Altharin (Pantheon of Man), Ssethric (Ssethric pantheon), or Eloran (Elorii pantheon)
The way that I read it is that you receive an additional language on top of what is provided by the background. So yes, you would receive Altherin and 2 more.
May 10, 2017 at 11:57 am #275218
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In the PHB the Acolyte background receives two bonus languages of the player’s choosing. The primer states that any section (such as languages) replaces that section in the PHB background. It then lists only a single language (based on church) under Acolyte Languages.
Are you saying that Altherin (for Pantheon of Man) is meant to be an extra in addition to the two languages granted by Acolyte in the PHB?
The intent is definitely to add to what the acolyte receives from the PHB. We will add that clarification to our list of Primer updates.
May 14, 2017 at 3:53 am #275253
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In the PHB the Acolyte background receives two bonus languages of the player’s choosing. The primer states that any section (such as languages) replaces that section in the PHB background. It then lists only a single language (based on church) under Acolyte Languages.
Are you saying that Altherin (for Pantheon of Man) is meant to be an extra in addition to the two languages granted by Acolyte in the PHB?
The intent is definitely to add to what the acolyte receives from the PHB. We will add that clarification to our list of Primer updates.
But Elorii will automatically speak Eloran already, so it seems redundant. Also Altherian natives will speak Altherin as their regional language. Do PHB rules that state that you can replace a duplicate language or proficiency with another of your choice still apply?
May 15, 2017 at 2:50 am #275259
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In the PHB the Acolyte background receives two bonus languages of the player’s choosing. The primer states that any section (such as languages) replaces that section in the PHB background. It then lists only a single language (based on church) under Acolyte Languages.
Are you saying that Altherin (for Pantheon of Man) is meant to be an extra in addition to the two languages granted by Acolyte in the PHB?
The intent is definitely to add to what the acolyte receives from the PHB. We will add that clarification to our list of Primer updates.
But Elorii will automatically speak Eloran already, so it seems redundant. Also Altherian natives will speak Altherin as their regional language. Do PHB rules that state that you can replace a duplicate language or proficiency with another of your choice still apply?
It is a little redudant for the elorii but it makes sense for the rest of the churches. And thus far, there isn’t really any other language that is connected to the elorii.
Technically, the core rules don’t say you can replace a duplicate language. You can only get a different tool or skill proficiency if you get a duplicate. But backgrounds are meant to be customizable so that they match your Hero. As long as the GM approves, tweaks are ok.
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