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- November 9, 2013 at 3:14 pm #252102AnonymousInactive
Paul,
I asked Pedro about it when we worked on the original rules because it didn’t seem to fit and he was fine leaving it in.
If this is true, then Peter made an error.
It definitely isn’t fine. The rules were designed to compliment the setting and the setting dictates that those who can cast Divine spells CANNOT cast Arcane and vice-versa.
I don’t know how I can be clearer than that.
Henry,
Glad to hear it. Thanks for the clarification.
With a sweep of his…
Hat
November 9, 2013 at 4:01 pm #252103AnonymousInactiveI have no idea what Pete was trying to accomplish when writing that example, but you CANNOT be an Arcane and Divine caster.
I have to admit, I’m curious how the above reflects on the Sorcerer King’s pursuit of Divine power.
November 9, 2013 at 5:47 pm #252106AnonymousInactiveTechnically, he’s not trying to get Divine power. He’s trying to become a god in his own right, at least as far as we know. And there’s already one god out there who messes things up (Sarish, god of everything!), so it’s not out of the question (presumably). That said… we know the gods have messed around with timetravel before. What if the Sorcerer King is the pre-god version of Sarish?
November 9, 2013 at 6:08 pm #252107AnonymousInactiveI have no idea what Pete was trying to accomplish when writing that example, but you CANNOT be an Arcane and Divine caster.
I have to admit, I’m curious how the above reflects on the Sorcerer King’s pursuit of Divine power.
Every time he gets close, Henry tells him no. He’s been trying since approximately -1800 CY
November 9, 2013 at 7:48 pm #252108AnonymousInactiveTony may have hit upon a very interesting point, I’ve always wondered why Sarish and the SK havent really duked it out in earnest
November 11, 2013 at 4:04 am #252125AnonymousInactiveCody,
The answer is a resounding No.
I have no idea what Pete was trying to accomplish when writing that example, but you CANNOT be an Arcane and Divine caster.
Period.
If need be I’ll have Pete errata that example.
Existing restrictions only applied to the ‘Arcane Spell Casting’ and ‘Divine Spell Casting’ talents. There’s a couple of talents that weren’t affected that now will be (that give you a ‘free’ spell as part of the Path or Talent gained).
January 24, 2014 at 2:23 am #255639AnonymousInactiveFigured I would put this into an existing thread instead of starting a new one. I seem to recall that you can be both a divine caster and a psion (the only exception to the rule that you can’t be arcane and divine). I was tossing around an idea for a character, and I just wanted to run it by the forums to make sure I’m not missing a rule somewhere.
Val character
Martial (a) with Undisciplined Psion (b)
Sword Saint (p) or Templar Itinerant (p) to gain access to Divine Spell Casting (ta)I realize that this isn’t the fastest way to get spell casting, but I was thinking about a primarily martial character who has access to a couple of self-buffing spells (Inertial Shield and Body of the Warrior, for a start).
Is there anything inherently problematic with this? I’m not terribly interested by arguments over whether it is ‘optimal’, just want to make sure it is rules compliant.
Thanks
January 24, 2014 at 2:36 am #255640AnonymousInactivenope, nothing inherently problematic what that build. there are some things to keep in mind but not a big deal
January 24, 2014 at 3:22 am #255644AnonymousInactiveWorks for me. Without being an Expert (or one of the casting archetypes) I found it is difficult to stay “up to speed” in two types of casting (good ranks in skills, taking Divine and Arcane Spell Casting every tier), but if all you want is a few spells–or to specialize in one and have a few spells for the other–this is a perfectly viable build.
January 24, 2014 at 11:03 am #255655AnonymousInactiveCody,
The answer is a resounding No.
I have no idea what Pete was trying to accomplish when writing that example, but you CANNOT be an Arcane and Divine caster.
Period.
If need be I’ll have Pete errata that example.
I thought that Psionic Priest was a story Archetype and Psionics + Divine was allowed? There is even a Path based on this.January 24, 2014 at 2:07 pm #255667AnonymousInactiveI thought that Psionic Priest was a story Archetype and Psionics + Divine was allowed? There is even a Path based on this.
You’re correct. It is. The issue was that with the way Paths were configured it was possible to be a non-Psionic Arcane Caster and take a path that provided Rudimentary prayers for example. There was a restriction on the Spellcasting Talents, but not on the Talents that provided access to a single spell which also in turn opened up the option for adding additional spells through the Learn Spell talent.
With a sweep of his hat,
Paul
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