Errata – sanctify weapon

Any correction for Illiir granting no special power option with sanctify weapon?

::face palm::

you know I had that in my notes and totally missed including it in the errata?

I’ll add it, thanks for the heads up!

I must say, I find that odd. After all, we’ve seen at least three active valinor (or fallen valinor) of Illiir who could teach these cants, right? All of these three have been pretty darn active. (though one was just ruling his little city state in the sealed land for most the time) I can maybe see Menatas (sp?) not promoting Illiir near the end there, since he was really more about promoting himself. But wouldn’t the Voice of Illiir spread Illiirite cants? Previously you’ve said the Church of Illiir in Bastion was the only real church since Xabal could only teach them Illiirite cants. Do they (and thus Val illirites from Bastion) know these cants? It would seem to me that at least they would have a complete Illirrite (and only Illiirite) lexicon.

we have?, I do say I think your mistaken on who / what we have seen

Manetas, had his own thing and did not reveal himself as a Valinor, besides that was 50+ years ago, “we” havent seen him.

Xabal, I recall something about the cants of Illir being weird in the unsealed lands, but it doesnt matter since the unsealed lands religion is distinctly separate from our own, and while they may know that cant, its not available for players.

what other Valinor of Illir are you referring to?

In the lifetime of the mother church is relevant, not just this lifetime, so even 50 years ago is very relevant. I didn’t play back then, so my knowledge is fuzzy, but it was my impression that for generations Menetas was active, and building his power, which at least in the beginning was probably associated with supporting the worshippers of Illiir that thought of him as Illiir’s servant on earth (or Illiir himself). But stuff with him is odd, so it is also distinctly possible that he did not share knowledge like that. But wasn’t he opposed by a Val that possessed the current Matriarch or something? The “Voice of Illiir”?

then there is Xabal. I would understand why their teachings haven’t spread out into the wider populace yet, but we will be having some Val’Vasik joining us shortly, and I at least was planning on making mine an Illiite. So it would seem that at least some of their teachings should be entering the campaign shortly. So what was known there does need to be dealt with.

In the lifetime of the mother church is relevant, not just this lifetime, so even 50 years ago is very relevant. I didn’t play back then, so my knowledge is fuzzy, but it was my impression that for generations Menetas was active, and building his power, which at least in the beginning was probably associated with supporting the worshippers of Illiir that thought of him as Illiir’s servant on earth (or Illiir himself). But stuff with him is odd, so it is also distinctly possible that he did not share knowledge like that. But wasn’t he opposed by a Val that possessed the current Matriarch or something? The “Voice of Illiir”?

RE Manetas, he was not operating in the open, he was very certainly working from behind the scenes, rather than out in the open. he certainly would not have gone up to someone in the chech saying “here is the canticle your missing”

The Word of Illir (Numenah iirc as described in the Spear of the Loghin) I’m not sure if the effect that possessed Ellandre, and the Valinor named The Word of Illir are the same thing. Regardless if they are or not, the effects of what happened to Elandre have caused the resurgence of “orthodox ideals” causing the current conflict within the mother church… there might be something there if people choose to listen to Ellandre.

There’s also the Love of Illiir, who would presumably have been most likely to share such… but we don’t know anything about it before it arrived at the Citadel in the Blessed Lands, or what happened to it afterwards…

I disagree. Even in your home game the priest of Illiir don’t know what the Sanctified Rune of Illiir is. In your home game if you want to give Illiir a sanc rune, go ahead. Pick one that fits him and apply it. But leaving it out of the book makes story sense.

And I Would think it would be in most valinor’s interest to promote the following and followers of their god with such information.

It is in the followers of a religions best interest to understand ALL of what Illiir told mankind some 5,000 years ago, yet for some reason no Valinor showed up to give the Mother Church a brand new copy of “How to be a Human, by Illiir” like he (apparently) did at the dawn of the First Imperium.

Now why could that be?