Fate Point Cap

Maybe it is just me, but I personally think “Subtract 5 Sc” during the adventure is LESS bookkeeping than saying “Well, you rented a room in the Inn, had a warm meal, and two drinks, so adding all that up. . .” stuff that we’ve been getting recently.

Maybe that is just me.

I have another take, that I posted in another thread:

Solve all the Fate Point issues at the same time. What are those issues, you ask? Things like: some GMs being more generous/stingy than others; players ‘banking’ them and/or ‘hesitant’ to spend them, players having X points but can only spend X/3 per module, etc.

For the shared campaign, the solution is simple: every adventure all characters start with a number of Fate Points equal to their Fate Score. Points do not accumulate or carry over. No bookkeeping… No worries about GMs giving too many or not enough…

Let private home games accumulate and carry over (or not, depending on the GM).

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I do agree with this. Nice and simple.

In the last BI of the crusade arc my players spent a grand total of 1 fate point. And that was to wipe some strain even though the combat actually finished the next tick. Most of the time they don’t need it or use it.

I’d like this too. In the case of double rounders you have twice your fate score or your fate score in each half. In the case of BIs three times your fate score. I know a BI is technically a double rounder, but we’re there for 12 hours and trying to be murdered and I think 3x is fair.

I actually am in favor of this also, it makes things a lot easier in the long run, and fate cap has a lot more meaning.

I am also in favor of doing away with the “do the impossible” or in the very least limiting it to something a bit more managable

I’ve been quietly reading all these posts. I said a few things earlier and been quiet. But at this point I want to chime back in with 4 things I’ve taken away.

#1) Despite the assertion that there is a story reason for the current ruling, the player base is discontent with where things stand. I say this given the number of posts and views on this thread. I know, while I don’t totally hate it, I personally think the current Fate Bank is heavy handed and I am somewhat unhappy with it.

#2) Other options exist that could limit the ability of someone dumping 75 points of fate in a Delve. (I favor NEVER lifting the cap in adventures/BI/Delves)

#3) The assertion of the campaign that individual judges are exclusively in control of how many fate points to give out to players has proven to be a bad idea in practice. It would work well in a home game but not in a living campaign where players and judges have (legitimately) different ideas about how they want to play. Guidelines in modules or in the campaign guide would be helpful.

#4) Consensus has not been reached about how the player base thinks Fate should be handled.

Is there any way to build a poll (that works?) where the different ideas could be laid out and we could get a rough idea where the people in the forum stand?

James,

This question should be answered by the Campaign Staff, not by Peter or me.

It’s the Holidays – let’s give them some time to get back and discuss this amongst themselves.

My general guidelines:

1) 1 Fate Point: Sitting down at a table, participating in the game, and helping to make it fun for all involved
2) 1 Fate Point: Roleplaying your character with other PC’s and with NPC’s as appropriate
3) 1 Fate Point: Playing up a flaw to your detriment, Going above and beyond to really stay true to your character even at another cost (assuming it’s not disruptive), etc.
4) 1 Fate Point: Anything particularly unique, special or extraordinary that a character did to really enhance the game.

Most players get 2 Fate for normal play, some get 3-4 if they go above and beyond. I rarely award more than 4 per adventure unless there’s something truly awesome going on.

John

It isn’t against the rules to ask a Judge that didn’t aware any Fate “Could you let us know if there were things we did or didn’t do that did not earn us Fate? Also, what we can do differently next time for earning Fate Points?” With everything else Judges have going on, it’s possible they forgot or didn’t realize that folks spent so many. Open up a dialogue with your GM, they are people too

John

*shrug* Sorry, I’m not going to customize my style of play to earn Fate Points on a judge-by-judge basis. That’s bad practice. It would be equally bad to metagame by saying “oh hey, Cody wrote this mod, make sure we do X or we don’t get full xp”.

It isn’t against the rules to ask a Judge that didn’t aware any Fate “Could you let us know if there were things we did or didn’t do that did not earn us Fate? Also, what we can do differently next time for earning Fate Points?” With everything else Judges have going on, it’s possible they forgot or didn’t realize that folks spent so many. Open up a dialogue with your GM, they are people too

John

I think you missed the point…it’s not about modifying your style of play as much as it is a gentle reminder to the GM. I believe once it’s pointed out that a GM didn’t give any Fate Points in a nice way, that it would be rectified. If you play with a GM who doesn’t give out Fate Points for any games even after being asked about it, maybe you need to have someone else run.

John