Hey Elorii

Are you encouraging this?

Weren’t you on the I hate the elorii because they do shit like this band wagon?

It says something about the type of character you are playing if you hide your name from the lesser races. My character isn’t the type to do that because of how he wants to be perceived.

Lesser races?!?

But I tend to agree, it does affect perception.

You should talk to your kin, because a bunch of them lied right through their (almost sharp yet still short) teeth at ArcaniCon last year. They seemed to have forgotten an important piece of information when trying to convince others to do something to save the day at an important moment….

The ‘impression’ that left with some of us is not a positive one Did I forget my quotes on lesser races, lol.

But Oh? Do tell about this lying. I felt I was on the up and up when I spoke about the ritual.

I think you forgot the part about “Oh and if you do this you won’t come back. Ever. Never.”

And the part about telling the elorii that inquired to NOT do the mission because of the above.Are you talking about losing their characters or losing their souls. I told them they were going to die, my impassioned speech did not fail to relay the message that you were rolling a new character. But I had no frakking idea those characters were going to have their souls trapped in that tree. None. Blame Tony (not really). Arcanis. Actions and consequences and all that jazz.

As per telling other elorii not to go, that was out of fear that their blood would make it more powerful. In one of the special mission tables, we saw the elemental spirit eating the essence of other elements. Had I thought of it, I would have just barred elorii from the sacrifices.

Also, had it been some Coryani characters telling other Coryani characters not to slit their own throats would you be upset? If something shady goes down (which nothing was), why is it acceptable unless you are elorii or Ss’ressen?

(striving to avoid spoiler info for if/when the adventure is released for home play)

Devin, I hope you can understand and appreciate the IC reactions any non-elorii had/have to that whole string of events.

First off, if there was full disclosure about the ‘eating elemental souls’ aspect, that would have been helpful. But that aspect was a ‘secret’ being passed around between the elorii, and that in and of itself is not exactly something many characters may respect or respond well to. I find it ironic (and amusing) you claim to not want to participate in this ‘alternate name’ thing because of the impression it may leave, but you are fine with orchestrating volunteers for this other thing that will cost any other creature/race more than just its live by ‘forgetting to share’ some key information.

Alternately, in light of the elorii’s end-goal objective (as a race), you should not be surprised that you getting up and making a surprise announcement might not be perceived by others as the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth (which in fact it turned out to not be!).

Lastly, when the response to that ritual comes back to haunt our world, my character will expect the elorii involved will be in the front of the line to deal with it again and make their sacrifice. I am doubtful that is the last we’ve heard of that whole situation. Consequences for actions, and all that…..

And if/when some Coryani characters do something as dastardly, we’ll deal with that, then. But I’m not accepting the “I know you are but what am I?!” distraction as a valid response

1) I like the idea of the ‘secret name’, but I grew up around First Nation’s people, and have worked with a number of Asian people who have ‘white person names’ and ‘real names’ in their native/traditional language. To me, having an Elorii take a “Human” name, or even a title while wandering around human lands seems reasonable to me. Will everyone do it? Probably not, but I see nothing wrong with the practice myself.

2) Am I irritated by the Elorii hiding stuff from me? I (me) do not think I could care less about it. Most of this stuff comes from a LARP, and though I’ve only participated in 2 LARPs the whole “people have secrets and shit” seems to be the whole thing. As such, I personally am cool with it. I might feel like I was outmaneuvered and be irritated by that fact, but like when someone takes one of my routes in the Ticket to Ride boardgame, I am irritated at the time, but I know it is only a game.

However, I will say that Haakon (my character) does not trust Elorii particularly because of this. I will still play the Lawful Good (through the Coryani lens of those terms) religious zealot and heal an Elorii ally and deal with them, but that doesn’t mean that I’m going to trust them any further than I have to. If you keep vital information from me (read: him), and then reveal it at the last minute after dozens of people (read: humans) die, you come across as a monster in the eyes of many.

3) As to the Elorii specifically saying “Hey, do not volunteer, your life is more precious than any Humans”, that actually make a LOT of sense to me both IC and OOC. IC, we know that Elorii lives indeed ARE precious. Henry has stated before that there is only a limited number of Elorii Souls (the exact number escapes me), so every one lost is a terrible price on par in many ways to the destruction of a Dwarven Soulshard. This is why the Kurenthe is viewed as such an abomination among the Elorii. To that end, even the most ‘brave’ Elorii would have a religious and cultural imperative not to do anything which could damage their soul. If all that was at stake was their body, they’d probably be the first to volunteer (yay recycling), but the soul is another thing entirely.

OOC. . . well, the Elorii players generally play the abused minority role that I have noticed, and when you are an abused minority sacrificing yourself to make your abused minority even MORE of a minority probably isn’t the best tactic. After all, if more human-kin die off, there is a greater chance that their NEXT character will be an Elorii if for no other reason that variety. Does this mean people who play Elorii are bad people? By no means! However, as I’ve seen in other games where people gravitate towards minor powers or powers that have a history of getting kicked down, the people who become fans of those races tend to focus on THAT aspect and will become more. . . machiavellian about how they play the character because they view that as more ‘authentic’. (in Battletech, the good example of this is certain Capellan players that I’ve met)