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- April 20, 2015 at 1:47 pm #267439AnonymousInactive
Basically I want to find my ‘heirloom’ bearded axe in the ruins of the enclave. It was buried with a distant ancestor and found by me while picking up the pieces as it were. Finding the axe is the catalyst that sends my character down the path to Deathbringer. Especially since the inscription (written in the oldest known dialect of Ancient Altharin) on the handle reads Etiam Deos Mori, which translates into “Even Gods Die.” This is a reference to the death of Illir at the hands of Neroth in the Mythic Age, an event which lead to the formation of the Deathbringer Order. Curiously the axe is not of Dwarven manufacture but rather human make. How are why such an axe ended up in the hands of a Dwarf is a question yet to answered.
April 20, 2015 at 2:34 pm #267441AnonymousInactiveI don’t think there is any major issue with the whole thing. Even if it is not common for Dwarves to be buried with all their belongings, I’m sure it happens. Hell, you could always say that it was a treasured family heirloom that you salvaged from the family’s mantelpiece.
As to the saying, I’m personally not sure that is in flavour for the Dwarves, especially the Tultipetians. You may want to say that it is a family Heirloom, but the axe itself is a of First Imperium make which has simply been passed through your family for centuries. Remember: The Dwarves have only been Dwarves for around 4,000 years and aside from the Reavers (and possibly the Deneki and Corett Palasi) are not exactly likely to have such . . . Mourner philosophies. Yes, it refers to a point in the Mythological age of the Gods, but it speaks of a low point in the Pantheon where Neroth lost his cool and killed Illiir, necessitating an epic quest of Cadic to bring him back to life. Neroth later viewed this as a mistake as it released evil into the world necessitating the Deathbringers. To honour it would be a pretty noticeable slap in the face of Illiir and any who worship him. Something more akin to “Death is not the End”, or “Only Death Ends Suffering” would be more in flavour.
Also, remember that latin is NOT Ancient Altharen in this universe. Latin is High Coryani, which is a derivative language. If you could find a way to translate it into Indo-European (or, more accurately, one of the reconstructed dialects floating around out there) or another Italic language, it would be more accurate.
For example: “Death is not an end” would according to random internet translator be “Chentis ghawod antjom” in Indo-European.
April 21, 2015 at 12:33 am #267445AnonymousInactiveAnother question is how old is the Deathbringer Order and were they headquartered anywhere else besides Paldaris?
April 21, 2015 at 12:37 am #267446AnonymousInactiveI may have to make the axe newer because a lot of the words I want to use do not seem to be in the database as far as Indo-European is concerned. And the Latin just sounds better. I blame that on my Catholic upbringing.
April 21, 2015 at 1:52 am #267447AnonymousInactiveOne thing I should have clarified earlier. I want the inscription on the axe to tie into the Deathbringer mission of hunting down and destroying evil, along with protecting those threated by such evil. If anybody has a copy of the old Player’s Guide to Arcanis, I am taking my inspiration from the Deathbringer entry on page 98.
April 23, 2015 at 12:53 am #267470AnonymousInactiveI don’t think there is any major issue with the whole thing. Even if it is not common for Dwarves to be buried with all their belongings, I’m sure it happens. Hell, you could always say that it was a treasured family heirloom that you salvaged from the family’s mantelpiece.
As to the saying, I’m personally not sure that is in flavour for the Dwarves, especially the Tultipetians. You may want to say that it is a family Heirloom, but the axe itself is a of First Imperium make which has simply been passed through your family for centuries. Remember: The Dwarves have only been Dwarves for around 4,000 years and aside from the Reavers (and possibly the Deneki and Corett Palasi) are not exactly likely to have such . . . Mourner philosophies. Yes, it refers to a point in the Mythological age of the Gods, but it speaks of a low point in the Pantheon where Neroth lost his cool and killed Illiir, necessitating an epic quest of Cadic to bring him back to life. Neroth later viewed this as a mistake as it released evil into the world necessitating the Deathbringers. To honour it would be a pretty noticeable slap in the face of Illiir and any who worship him. Something more akin to “Death is not the End”, or “Only Death Ends Suffering” would be more in flavour.
I’ve been giving some thought as to the inscription and the reason it’s there. We know there are many Dwarves who don’t take kindly to Illiir cursing the innocent along with the guilty. Maybe my ancestor was one of those. Who knows maybe he was a Mourner in Silence agent. And if it ticks off some Illiirites well, let say that don’t bother Arun too much. A lot of blood is on their hands considering their role in the Coryani Civil War. And don’t even get me started on what they did to Solanos Mor. I may be Mother Church, but I don’t follow its teachings blindly. Like it or not if we take the ancient texts at their word even the gods DO die. So the statement is accurate if unpalatable to some. It also alludes to the fact that in the end nothing is permanent.
To be clear I am somewhat speaking in character and not intending to insult or put down anyone else’s opinions. I think the axe and the inscription makes a nice RP hook, which is the whole point of the exercise.

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