HP 1-10 Desecration

My GM for “Desecration” (John Olszewski) said that he played the mod with Pedro Barrenechea as GM and that Pedro said that the intention for the gauntlets is that the spirit bane rune’s power is conveyed to any weapon carried by the wearer.

I would not generalize this to state anything about the use of runes with gauntlets or that particular rune, but (reportedly) Pedro said that’s how these particular gauntlets should be treated.

ADDITION/CORRECTION: Mod author Henry Lopez clarified below that the above claim on the gauntlet’s use is wrong and that the power is in the gauntlets but not conveyed to anything weapons wielded while wearing the gauntlets.

Okay so if the gauntlets don’t let you smack spirits with your weapon what do they do? I’m not clear on the meaning of “man-handling spirits.” The only person in that game who could have logically used them was my martial character Ursula. Now I have no problem burning a talent to get weapon proficiency with the gauntlets because I already have ranks in Melee: Unarmed and the Pugilist Talent. The idea of punching a ghost in the face is just too cool to pass up.

That was the idea – it was a “magic item” for the Unarmed Combatants in the game as they usually don’t find much that caters to their specialty.

You can put weapon runes on weapons. A Cestus is a weapon (not a person). I see no reason you couldn’t ‘rune it up’.

Question: My understanding has been that if you have
Heavy Armor Proficiency then you are assumed to have
virtual weapon training in gauntlets.
Answer: No, you need to acquire Weapon Training:
Gauntlet to acquire its weapon tricks

The errata says nothing about using the Gauntlet (as the purchased weapon, not as part of armour) without the Talent. You just can’t use ARMOUR Training instead of WEAPON Training. You can feel free to punch away, however!

This is not D&D. All Weapon Training does is open up Weapon Tricks. Attacks are skill based, not talent based.

Okay I see your point. At work, no books or I would have looked this up. So I could have levels in say Ranged: Marksmanship and fire both Crossbows and Flintlocks with no problem? The only reason to take Weapon Training is to get access to Weapon Tricks? What about Weapon Mastery? I think you need training in the weapon to qualify.\

Yes, if you have +4 to Ranged: Marksmanship and nothing else, you’d fire your flintlock just as well as someone with Weapon Training (Ta) and +4 to Ranged: Marksmanship. And yes, to get Weapon Mastery, you do need Weapon Training as a prerequisite. That said, if you don’t care about that +1 to attack (and all the other stuff at higher tiers), that is in no way necessary to USE the weapon. For example, my own character Haakon val’Virdan carries a Gladius and a dagger with him in his personal belongings. He doesn’t have training or mastery in them, but he does keep them around as they are sometimes useful, and he hits only slightly less accurately with them compared to his Flamberge because of the Weapon Mastery.

Markmanship is a useful skill to pickup, as there are several spells that can use it, as well as hitting those heavy crossbow attacks in heavy battles.