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- January 8, 2014 at 5:09 pm #254759AnonymousInactive
Nope, you cant take Prestidigitation (Pdig) and Arcane spell cazsting in the same advancement because you need to read the rest of that advancement’s text:
Choose any two talents; you must meet the requirements for both talents before you utilize this advancement option.
you don’t qualify for ASC when you take the advancement
January 8, 2014 at 5:16 pm #254761AnonymousInactiveThey have to be taken at the same TIME (ie: Character creation), but not the same STEP.
The errata clarified same step in character creation.
John
January 8, 2014 at 5:24 pm #254764AnonymousInactiveOkay that makes sense. What would a character lose out on taking Prestidigitation during character creation and then ASC during a later Rank?
January 8, 2014 at 5:32 pm #254767AnonymousInactiveThe errata clarified same step in character creation.
Ah. Yep. Same STEP (not just at char creation)…
Change Prestidigitation’s Special to:
Special: If you gain both Prestidigitation and either the Arcane or Divine Casting Talents at the same step in character creation or as combined benefits of a single Path selection, then you learn all Tier 1 Universal spells, not just the Base spells. If, instead, you later acquire either the Arcane Spell Casting or the Divine Spell Casting Talents you must gain the Learn Spell Talent to learn the remaining Universal spells.It also addresses my original question in the first sentence. the “if, instead,” line muddies the waters but it still seems probable that the intent was you would not get non-Base Universal spells gaining ASC before Prestidigitation (only if they are gained at the same time).
January 8, 2014 at 5:34 pm #254768AnonymousInactiveOkay that makes sense. What would a character lose out on taking Prestidigitation during character creation and then ASC during a later Rank?
You lose out on any Advanced Universal spells (most notably Unravel the Thread).
January 8, 2014 at 5:40 pm #254773AnonymousInactiveThe errata clarified same step in character creation.
Ah. Yep. Same STEP (not just at char creation)…
Change Prestidigitation’s Special to:
Special: If you gain both Prestidigitation and either the Arcane or Divine Casting Talents at the same step in character creation or as combined benefits of a single Path selection, then you learn all Tier 1 Universal spells, not just the Base spells. If, instead, you later acquire either the Arcane Spell Casting or the Divine Spell Casting Talents you must gain the Learn Spell Talent to learn the remaining Universal spells.It also addresses my original question in the first sentence. the “if, instead,” line muddies the waters but it still seems probable that the intent was you would not get non-Base Universal spells gaining ASC before Prestidigitation (only if they are gained at the same time).
Taking ASC first without Prestidigitation means you lose out on ALL Universal Spells until you take Prestidigitation, as those are explicitly given by Prestidigitation. You’d have to later acquire Prestidigitation to get the Base Universal Spells. I think that’s what you meant but wanted to clarify.
John
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