Runes as sources of elements for spells

all of this is just arguments to make things harder for one very small subset of spells, 5 spells by my count, elemental bolt and solidify water, elemental tempest, elemental aura, blade of our lord (fire).

The book doesn’t define what access means nor does it indicate the source is used up.
There is not an official ruling or FAQ Entry that’s currently published on the subject

SO this is certainly a your mileage may vary situation, and depending on your judge your character might be normally or seriously nerfed and you wont know until your in the middle of battle.

Here is my opinion on it, I don’t care what you use for a source, as long as it reasonable, I’m not going to have the magic use it up or extinguish it or otherwise arbitrarily cut you off from that source unless it makes a good story reason to do so.

forcing characters to carry packets of earth or flasks of air or water, or dozens of torchs seems to be just an arbitrary time tax, if that was what was intended it would be defined in the rules, because there are a lot of little rules behind that, and the idea itself is antithetical to basic idea of how the Arcanis Game is played ( at least to me)

I would normally concur that it’s probably left to ‘hand waving’ and ease of use. However, if that is the case, why do the rules make such a big point about certain races counting as a source of and why are there only a few spells that require a source? What is the reasoning behind that?

John

I was Unofficially asking the question of the designers. What is the rationale behind the need for the element on those spells? Was it intended to be more widespread? Was it just to add a bit of a restriction on everyone casting earth, fire and water spells? I’m actually curious.

John

Another question might be how specific races can be sources of elements for their own spells, but not others. Why can’t someone nearby use a Kelekene Elorii as a source of fire? Is he or isn’t he semi-elemental? It seems odd (not crazy, but odd) that only they can access themselves as a source. Can an elemental deny you using it as a source? Can an elorii allow himself to be used as an elemental source by another individual?

It doesn’t seem quite as odd for the appropriate Val, since they aren’t as “elemental-like” as Elorii, but it stands for them too.

I strongly imagine it has to do with consenting. Those beings, though being elemental-like, are empowering the spells with a small portion of their (elemental) essence. Using them as a source would be like taking a part of them akin to “blood” (though not exactly). They can access it themselves because they know how to do so without harming themselves. Having someone else do it is ripping it from them (should be an attack on them rather than treat them as a source).

Just my two cents …

If you are casting a spell that creates a volcano… not sure I’d accept a flaming sword as a source of fire for something like that. (Just an example, not suggesting there is a spell to create a volcano.)

*Looks at Kickstarter*

“$22,000 -Sorcerous Pacts PDF

This PDF will give further information on the mysterious elorii as one of their own go on a quest throughout the Mortal Realms attempting to contact their slain gods. Along the way, he meets powerful beings and makes powerful Pacts with them that even today, those who wield elder Sorcery can call upon.”

Nope….no Volcano spells. *whistles innocently*

I’ve got a mental image of people taking elorii captive and slashing their throats to use the blood for spellcasting in battle, now.

. . .

::Runs to computer to write a new mod::

I strongly imagine it has to do with consenting. Those beings, though being elemental-like, are empowering the spells with a small portion of their (elemental) essence. Using them as a source would be like taking a part of them akin to “blood” (though not exactly). They can access it themselves because they know how to do so without harming themselves. Having someone else do it is ripping it from them (should be an attack on them rather than treat them as a source).

Just my two cents …

Maybe. Or maybe they retain a connection, however tenuous, to the elemental realms and are able to manipulate and access that connection as part of their elder arts?

Regardless there are lots and lots (and lots and lots…) of examples of sacrificing people for power in the world of Arcanis going all the way back to the Human Gods consuming the elorii’s 4 Elemental Lords in order to work the imprisonment of the Other whom the elorii call Umor.