Runes for unarmed attacks?

Someone asked a similar question on the old forums. There is of course the option of using a cestus/gauntlet/tail bracer, etc. Someone had suggested simply buying a Fine pair of gloves and applying runes, but I can’t remember whether that was considered to be a legal option.

Cestus and gauntlets do have the Worn quality, so there isn’t really a downside to using them for unarmed attacks. Personally, if it isn’t in your character concept to be wearing armoured gauntlets, I would simply use the rules for gauntlets and describe it in-character as gloves/handwraps/etc

Thanks then, now, when I use Form of the Predator, would they still be active?

pg 5 of FiM states you have to use noble grab which i do believe that they ruled in past boards it had to be of exceptional quality (don’t quote me on that one though), even if it does not have to be exceptional quality fine gloves would cost 20gc i believe, maybe more depending on how one interprets what is written on pg 231 of phb, so for a basic fine t1 rune on gloves its a min of 25gc . on top of that FiM pg 5 states that the gloves (noble grab) would then take up the armor spot of the wearer, which would imply to me that weapon runes would not work

i can double check with matt, i know he and our local unarmed fighter had brought this up in the old boards, as well as wrote up some new ideas for one of the up coming books. i know we had submitted some rules ideas regarding rune tattoos back in june, not sure as the status on that one though.

I would like to take the opportunity to point out :

You may purchase Fine or Exceptional quality versions of clothing for 5x or 10x the normal value.

pg 238 ARPG

However, gloves do not have an individual listing, but a gauntlet costs 10SC, and a Katar (punching dagger COH) is 6 SC, I personally dont think that 10SC is an in appropriate price for a set of gloves. However if you caught me in a grumpy mood, I might just categorically deny gloves because they don’t exist in the book for purchase, OR i might insist that you purchase Exceptional nobles clothing to get gloves.

Your mileage may vary, maybe we can bribe Pete to slip some mundane gloves into the next book.

Panther, yeah that is an interesting place in the rules where what is written is intended for the typical (armor and weapons) and not for the weird thing like using clothes as armor for the purpose of runes.

That being said Exceptional clothing should get the same runes as exceptional armor, 1 exceptional and 3 Fine (or 4 fine runes)

and the quote this is just using the quote tags at the top of the list:

they look like this, well minus the underscores

Hello,

While we’re on the subject, Unarmed Combat is not a standard fighting tradition within the Known Lands, that I can think of.

People are obviously taught hand-to-hand combat, but its usually seen as a means of last resort, where most would rely on more effective weapons.

Even the gladiators in the Coryani Arenas, tend to use cestus or gauntlets when forced to go unarmed.

Of course, I don’t have the book in front of me, and Pete may have added something in the Fighting Styles that I don’t remember off the top of my head, but just thought I’d share my thoughts.

additionally, it’s worth noting that the priesthood of Anshar are all skilled unarmed combatants.