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- January 1, 2016 at 8:46 pm #270728AnonymousInactive
As with most things, one probably needs to look at China for examples of how this works:
Likely the Khitani are an insular group and generally shun outsiders. Unless they are Ansharans (or one of the Val families), they’d probably be tolerated but would never be accepted and would always be treated as a foreigner. Even if they converted to the Kalindruhl, they’d still be looked upon as an outsider. It is even possible that Khitani cities have ‘foreign districts’ like we’ve seen in a number of real-life insular cultures and with the city of Seremas in Arcanis.
This is probably also aided with the physical barriers of the Aqtau Mountains, the Fervidus Hills (with the Voei), the Sea of Lanterns, and the Vastwood which filters out the riffraff. On the other hand, the lands of the Known Lands are fairly open from the Aqtau’s on with the exception of the Pilgrim’s Pass being the only real ‘safe’ entry from the Known Lands into the Blessed Lands. Think of it like the Silk Road in our world: the Blessed Lands occupy the same role as the Gobi Desert, the Aqtau are similar to the Pamir and the Hindu-Kush, and the Andyar and the Dailish acting as the ‘go-betweens’ similar to the Turks, the Kushans, the Persians, or the Srivijayans.
January 7, 2016 at 11:58 pm #270812AnonymousInactiveSo, here are the Ul families that we know of.
ul’Hsin – Cadic – Major
ul’Jaya – Illiir – Major
ul’Lo – Unknown – Minor/Endangered
ul’Rankin – Yarris – Major
ul’Shi – Larissa – Major
ul’Tai – Sarish – Unknown
ul’Tang – Nier- Major
ul’Wei – Althares – Major
ul’Zhang – Hurrian – MajorOriginally posted by Henry there were 13 Ul families (including the ul’Tai), but thus far we only have examples of 6 of these families existing to the current day. Another of the listed families (the ul/val’Tai) were banished from the Imperium and possibly have no presence in Khitan at all, while the ul’Lo are of unknown divinity and unknown status beyond “not a lot left.” The ul’Rankin are know to exist, but thus far we have not actually seen any named examples of this family so they may in fact be quite rare indeed.
This means that we are missing some 4 Ul families that at least USED to exist at the time of the Khitani Schism from the First Imperium, and we still do not have Ul representatives of Beltine, Neroth, or Saluwe. One of these families was likely wiped out by the Sleeping Emperor following the Second Coryani-Khitani War, but it is unknown which one this was outside of the ‘big six’ of Hsin, Jaya, Tang, Zhang, Wei, and Shi that we have examples of in the Blessed Lands Book.
June 28, 2017 at 10:57 pm #275612AnonymousInactiveAdded the ul’Nomai as scions of Beltine, as revealed at Origins 2017.
June 29, 2017 at 10:55 am #275615AnonymousInactiveI didn’t see this answered anywhere, are non-Khitani allowed into Khitan? I mean, khitani traders are allowed into Coryan and eastern nations, but there seems to be surprisingly little known about the Khitani still, could a character literally walk in there? Or would they immediately be hunted?
Well, (trying to be vague) in a module the PCs quite literally walked into Khitan… passing several settlements, and then assisted the rulers of another Khitani settlement. An NPC, whom was a Val, had previously done the same thing alone and without consequence as well. The Khitani definitely treated the PCs and NPC as outsiders, but they weren’t hostile and didn’t make any demands or even overly question the PCs as to why they were in Khitan (they really acted much the way any settlement would when adventurers show up) – so its not at all like, say, walking into the Vastwood (where the Elorii will hunt and kill you for crossing the border). I get the impression that the Khitani are fine with foreign merchants, scribes, scholars, etc – and on occasion even fine with armed adventurers.
November 12, 2018 at 4:44 am #276769AnonymousInactiveul’Nomai – Beltine – Major
The original list of Ul families listed 13 distinct families, of which only 8 are remembered by anyone. We still do not have an Ul family that we know of dedicated to Beltine, Neroth, or Saluwe’ . Additionally, after the First Coryani-Khitani War, a whole Ul family was said to have been wiped out by the order of the Sleeping Emperor, and the name of this family is currently unknown (but it is not the Jaya, Shi, Wei, Hsin, or Zheng).
If anyone has the list of Ul’s that Mr. Lopez posted on the old forums, I’d appreciate it!
The ul’Nomai are new to me. Missed that Origins.We have met a Khitani Saluwean val family as adversaries: the Tiger Men. I haven’t seen an ul’Name for them yet. Technically, I suppose that means they may be Khitani val, but not counted amongst the Blessed.
Edit: the Tiger Men are the ul’Parum.
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