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- June 26, 2015 at 12:09 am #151896AnonymousInactive
Hi all
Just a quick one regarding weapon training (Shields)
I have a Expert as get weapon training in two of my national weapons. One of them I have chosen is shield.
I am a little confused in how it works. Is it like flintlocks where you need to choose a specific type (ie Weapon Training Flintlock:Pistol & Weapon Training Flintlock:Rifle) or is it like crossbows when the talent covers all types.
I guess what I am trying to work out is when I take Weapon Training do I get proficiency in all nation shield or just the Buckler (one I am using)?
Cheers
June 26, 2015 at 12:17 am #268751AnonymousInactiveShields means all shields. Armor Training and Weapon Training are the same talent when it comes to Shields.
June 26, 2015 at 1:26 am #268755AnonymousInactiveReally, for the next edition, Shields need to be taken out of Armour section and be treated like any other weapon (using the Weapon Training talent). Saves a huge amount of confusion…
June 26, 2015 at 4:41 am #268763frootsnaxParticipantArmor Training with shield would give you training in all shields. Costs a talent. That’s not how I read the weapon selection from Expert Archetype. Saying you can take “Shield” and get all types of shields for your nationality is a lot like says you took “sword” and get WT in all national swords.
I think you pick one of your national shields. You gain prof with it (on offense and defense)
June 26, 2015 at 1:28 pm #268764AnonymousInactiveHi all
I am a little confused in how it works. Is it like flintlocks where you need to choose a specific type (ie Weapon Training Flintlock:Pistol & Weapon Training Flintlock:Rifle) or is it like crossbows when the talent covers all types.
Just as an aside, Weapon Training: Flintlocks covers both pistols and rifles. They are the same weapon entry, just like bows and crossbows.
John
July 7, 2015 at 3:27 pm #268897AnonymousInactiveEric is correct. As an Expert, you can choose a specific shield – you do not get all shields (or even all national shields). This was clarified a while ago (and required me redoing part of one of my characters). Similarly, Martial does not grant all shields – it only grants all national shields.
In general, if you want all shields, you have to spend a talent.
July 12, 2015 at 11:59 pm #269019AnonymousInactiveI have taken the talent (for weapon Training) as Weapon Training:Buckler anyway, so if down the track it gets changed to include all shields then bonus

As per Flinklocks, I have always assumed you had to take Flintlock:Pistol and Flintlock:Rifle as separate Weapon Training talents. My assumption comes from the fact that there are paths that require Weapon Training (Flintlock:Rifle). If flintlocks were bundled under one category for WT then this would not be needed to be stated.
July 14, 2015 at 3:24 am #269024AnonymousInactiveFlintlocks are listed as one entry. I see no reason they would require different talents.
John
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