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- March 26, 2014 at 2:21 am #151078AnonymousInactive
So can buffs in 1.5 not be roll based and be passive only?
March 26, 2014 at 2:22 am #261015AnonymousInactiveSo can buffs in 1.5 not be roll based and be passive only?
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March 26, 2014 at 2:34 am #261024AnonymousInactiveSorry. I shouldn’t have put a one liner up. On my phone though. But removing rolling for buffs eliminates the scene issue.
Whenever we get to 1.5, no rolling for buff spells.
Benediction of the Gods should not have a roll to see the bonus, just check passive.
Summon bindings, no rolling for the bonuses just check passive.
Refreshing the body for a wound should require a minimum passive, not a Psions can he wounds in between scenes at 1.1 because val.
Call to Arms, no roll for distance. Otherwise outside of combat you can pull from any distance.
Now this should be on a case to case basis, not all non damage spells should suffer this fate, but by removing the CTN roll from buffing the scene thing becomes much less of an issue.
March 26, 2014 at 2:37 am #261026AnonymousInactiveI guess I’m confused by the 1.5 restriction. This affects everyone.
Are you suggesting that we get rid of rolling all together?
March 26, 2014 at 2:56 am #261033AnonymousInactiveNot tier 1.5, Arcanis 1.5.
Not, I don’t want to get rid of rolling all together. But rolling action skill rolls should be for ACTION! Not getting a higher buff number at tier 1.1 or healing wounds at 1.1.
Rolling CTN checks are great for Unraveling the Thread, and any offensive spell that targets defense. Rolling CTNs should be for when there is a consequence for failure. With buffing the consequence for failure is just winning less.
Bindings would be okay to roll I guess because you can still only attempt one per day, but depending on the mod, sometimes you get a week in between scenes.
Okay to roll examples:
Black Ice
Castigate
Elemental Bolt
Larissa’s Fickleness
Heat Wave
Leech Life
Excellence in Action
Things that target defenseShouldn’t get to roll for CTN:
Blessed Protector
Call of the Wild
Elemental Guardian
Grave Blight (any)
Ebon (any)
Elemental Aura
Crown of Radiance
Body of the Warrior
Personal Illusion
Most BindingsMarch 26, 2014 at 4:32 am #261052AnonymousInactiveNot tier 1.5, Arcanis 1.5.
Get out of my head…. I have already been thinking the same thing…
March 26, 2014 at 3:40 pm #261088AnonymousInactiveCall me Professor X. But I’ve thought this since the beginning. Some spells should not allow for CTN rolls.
March 26, 2014 at 4:48 pm #261102AnonymousInactiveCall me Professor X. But I’ve thought this since the beginning. Some spells should not allow for CTN rolls.
I’m trying to understand this discussion. Do you believe some spells should not *allow* for CTN rolls (You must always use your passive) or that some spells should not have CTN’s at all and just succeed without any chance of failure?
John
March 26, 2014 at 5:09 pm #261107AnonymousInactiveSome spells should not allow for a CTN roll to increase or alter the effects. It should still have a CTN for adaptions and talents. In the case of chance of failure (black tongue for example), you would be able to roll, but not for results beyond your passive and the penalty.
By removing the CTN roll on buff spells and utility spells, a lot of scene headache gets removed. Not all utility spells would be penalized for this though, we have have to look at the spells on a case by case basis.
Rolling for CTN should be dramatic and have the consequences for failure shouldn’t be I try for a +3 again.
March 26, 2014 at 5:11 pm #261108AnonymousInactiveSo for spells, like Personal Illusion, where the CTN increase is for additional effect, you believe that a caster should not be able to do those effects until their passive is high enough to auto-cast it?
John
March 26, 2014 at 5:12 pm #261109AnonymousInactiveSome spells should not allow for a CTN roll to increase or alter the effects. It should still have a CTN for adaptions and talents. In the case of chance of failure (black tongue for example), you would be able to roll, but not for results beyond your passive and the penalty.
By removing the CTN roll on buff spells and utility spells, a lot of scene headache gets removed. Not all utility spells would be penalized for this though, we have have to look at the spells on a case by case basis.
Rolling for CTN should be dramatic and have the consequences for failure shouldn’t be I try for a +3 again.
I have already considered CTN: XX (Passive) as a notation that the spell is always cast at the passive arcane value of the caster
Mix a non passive spell with a passive spell.. the new spell becomes passive
March 26, 2014 at 5:13 pm #261110AnonymousInactiveCorrect.
March 26, 2014 at 5:14 pm #261111AnonymousInactiveSo for spells, like Personal Illusion, where the CTN increase is for additional effect, you believe that a caster should not be able to do those effects until their passive is high enough to auto-cast it?
If we do this all (Passive) spells will have their base CTN and Adjustment CTN modifiers reduced by -1 to -2 depending on what they are.
March 26, 2014 at 5:36 pm #261114AnonymousInactiveSo what is the intent behind the change?
1) Is it to make certain ‘effects’ only available to those who invest heavily into their casting attribute?
2) Is it to reduce the amount of dice rolling?
3) Is it to make non-binding buff spells unavailable outside of combat due to ‘rolling until you get a success’?March 26, 2014 at 5:44 pm #261122AnonymousInactiveSo what is the intent behind the change?
1) Is it to make certain ‘effects’ only available to those who invest heavily into their casting attribute?
2) Is it to reduce the amount of dice rolling?
3) Is it to make non-binding buff spells unavailable outside of combat due to ‘rolling until you get a success’?#1 and #3… #2 is nice…
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