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- February 18, 2014 at 1:15 am #150730AnonymousInactive
I had previously made a list of known Valinor on the old forums which has since been lost to time. To save myself a LOT of searching, please post any you think about and I’ll update the list.
Althares –
Anshar –
NO VALINOR!!!Beltine –
Serenity of Beltine (Dead) – Progenitor of the val’Sosi line.Cadic –
Cunning of Cadic (Unknown) – Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Honour of Cadic/Urumeh (Unknown) – Fallen, serves as a General of the Infernal Armies of the Gods.Hurrian –
Bravery of Hurrian (Unknown) – Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Reluctance of Hurrian (Dead) – Died after releasing the Wrath of Hurrian who was trapped within it.
Wrath of Hurrian (Unknown) – Once trapped by the Reluctance of Hurrian. Released, causing The Storm.Illiir –
Honour of Illiir (Unknown) – Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Light of Illiir (Unknown) – Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Love of Illiir (Unknown) – Last known to be alive in Year 6 of the 3.5 campaign.
Patience of Illiir/Xabal (Dead) – Founder of the city of Bastion, progenitor of the val’Vasik line.
Pride of Illiir/Manetas (Bound) – Currently bound by a Sarishan Ritual after attempting to take over the world.
The Word of Illiir?/Numeh (Unknown) – Gifted a spear to a Milandesian king.Larissa –
The Dreaming of Larissa (Alive) – The Sleeping Emperor of Khitan
????/”Saturna” (Unknown) – The namesake Valinor for the Larissan Saturnalia in SavonaNeroth –
Hatred of Neroth (Unknown) – Previously bound in the Cauldron, current status unknown (killed by Skiz?)
Mercy of Neroth (Dead?) – consumed by an undead dragon.Nier –
Blade of Nier (Unknown) – ‘Patron’ of Nol Dappa.
Judgement of Nier (Alive?) – Guardian of the Cauldron, judges souls.
Rage of Nier (Unknown) – Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Temperance of Nier (Dead) – Killed by Jeggal Sag during the Dragon War.Sarish –
Cunning of Sarish/Loshnek/???? (Alive?/Fallen?) – Meddler of most aspects of Onara, last seen at the Battle of Grand Coryan.
Shadow of Sarish/Mish (Unknown) – Formally bound by the Baucisz, progenitor of the val’Baucisz line.Saluwe’ –
Fertility of Saluwe’ (Unknown) – Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Strength of Saluwe’/Skozorantus/Skizz(Unknown) – Last seen at the Battle of Grand Coryan fighting with the Hatred of Neroth.Yarris –
Unknown Patron –
Pirate King of Garundi
Sleeping Emperor of Khitan.February 18, 2014 at 1:27 am #256984AnonymousInactiveSkizzerantes (no clue if I’m spelling that right or not, so Skizz for short) was the Strength (?) of Saluwe, if memory serves. It’s been a while.
February 18, 2014 at 1:44 am #256986AnonymousInactiveNumeh is the word of illir
February 18, 2014 at 3:40 pm #257009AnonymousInactiveJust to throw Menthos into the diet coke. The Sorcerer King – Something or Other of Sarish. Possibly Fallen.
February 18, 2014 at 11:47 pm #257041frootsnaxParticipantJust to throw Menthos into the diet coke. The Sorcerer King – Something or Other of Sarish. Possibly Fallen.

There is an outside chance that the SK is Amath, a valinor of Sarish (“Always the clever one”) but a much more likely reading of what we know from Blood Reign in Nishanpur and the Year of Ill Harvest is that Amath ended up on the SKs dissection table.
Given the information on Loshnek in BRiN and his motivation to investigate what the SK is up to it seems unlikely to me that the SK was a former “inside agent” of Sarish.
February 19, 2014 at 2:19 am #257044AnonymousInactiveDoesn’t it say under the entry in Abessios that Amanth is the Sorcerer King of Mandragore?
February 21, 2014 at 3:05 am #257177AnonymousInactiveKhuld the Pirate King of Magra wasn’t a valinor. He was a half-ogre (not half-orc). You meet him in LA-SP3-17 No Quarter.
I’ve always found it interesting that Yarris, Althares, and Larissa don’t have valinor.
Yarris has rumors of existing before the other Gods came to Arcanis.
Althares has documented “evidence” in the original 3.0 Codex of still speaking to his worshipers, while all other human Gods have gone silent. (pg 75)
Just Larissa doesn’t have any excuses for the lack of valinor.February 21, 2014 at 5:48 am #257190AnonymousInactiveI believe there was the Mercy of Neroth that was eaten by a Dragon if memory serves me well
Taffy/Dean
February 21, 2014 at 8:52 am #257195frootsnaxParticipantMany suspect\believe the Sleeping Emperor is of Larissa. There is a reasonable chance that the 1000 Eyed Man is a fallen Valinor of Larissa.
Altheris may or may not have any listed valinor but his origins seem sufficiently conventional to me that I assume (for the moment at least) that he has them and if we spent more time adventuring in Altheria then we would know about them.
Yarris is indeed altogether another question question. I am not currently taking odds on his having valinor or not.
February 21, 2014 at 9:05 am #257196frootsnaxParticipantDoesn’t it say under the entry in Abessios that Amanth is the Sorcerer King of Mandragore?
Yes. In the Core Book on page 5 it does. Which is indeed suspicious. ( not necessarily determinative.) In the past on the LA talk list there has been suspicions that more than one individual has used the name Amanth … which again is also the name of the person who designed the ritual to trap the Sword of the Heavens and also a person of interest to Sarish and Loshnek (and presumably a former servant of Sarish).
Is it the SK in all three references? That is certainly one possibility. But its also possible that at times it was desirable for the SK to use the name of the valinor he dissected and subsumed…which could also be the Amanth of some of the above as well…
February 26, 2014 at 4:23 am #257571AnonymousInactiveI too think that the Sorcerer King is a fallen Valinor. Perhaps the Magic of Sarish.
I think it goes well with how he is viewed and what we know of him. An immortal man, that looks handsome. He claims all arcane magic users are his subjects. He prefers to be worshipped by his subjects. Sounds like both Xabal and Manetas.The ruler of Garundi is Supreme Commander Zirth/Zhirt it’s spelled both ways. He is a Valinor of an unknown God. He hates the Mother Church of Coryan. And has made a pack with the SK for protection.
Numeh is the Word of Iillir.
There is a Mercy of Neroth. He wields the actual Scythe of Neroth, and he was eaten by a dragon. Turning the dragon into a Dracolich.
The Hated of Neroth and all Valinor that sided with Manetas (in total 1/3 of the Host) were all bound with Manetas.
September 12, 2017 at 3:27 pm #275794AnonymousInactiveAs a dear friend of Skiz, but never seen his full story arc due to life, I would love to read through any material that may have been published, either in an adventure or in a book (I have all of the 3.5 books).
Please?
September 12, 2017 at 9:50 pm #275797AnonymousInactiveThe last reference to Skiz was located in the last adventure of the 3.5 Campaign. There was nothing else released about him (her?) in any other adventure or source material since, and very few even before that after Year 1.
September 12, 2017 at 11:16 pm #275798AnonymousInactiveSummary of Skiz:
1. Turned up as an animal familiar cert
2. Name means ‘tasty’ in Ss’ressen (at least that was the local information). One of our Ss’ressen kept threatening to eat him.
3. Transformed into a Valinor during the finale of the Civil War, with a comment about ‘hiding from’ something.There was very little player information outside the two events. There may have been GM information pop up, but I didn’t see any in the ones I ran.
September 13, 2017 at 5:06 am #275799frootsnaxParticipantDuring the final BI PCs penetrated the previously unbleached walls of Grand Coryan and fought their way towards the Imperial Palace as Valinor both for and against Manetas fought in the skies.
A freed Hatred of Neroth got ready to dive bomb the PCs but at the last second Skiz transformed back into a Valinor (The Strength of Salute?) and intercepted him. Last PCs saw was their melee merge with the other valor fighting in the skies.
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