Rebuke

I run it the same way as Josh.

John

I also used to play it much the same (though creatures are immediately moved to the edge not simply “when they feel like it” on their turn). I’ve moved to Devin’s line of thinking here, as stated above as his interpretation does indeed better fit with the rules than the ones I previously used. After all, you are citing the basic rules for sustained, and he is citing the spell itself. In a pissing contest between “Basic rules” and “Specific exceptions made by a specific thing in the rules”, the specific thing wins.

That said, there is one point of interest:

The Range of Rebuke is 10′ Radius, not 0′ (10′ Radius), or Self (10′ Radius), or Melee (Radius 10′). This means that the spell provokes Free Strikes when cast. From my read of the rules, you only get the Free Strikes on INITIAL casting and not with sustaining, but it does make logical sense that this spell would provoke Free Strikes upon sustaining because you need to concentrate on maintaining the bubble, which means you are less able to avoid damage.

Food for thought. . .

The Range of Rebuke is 10′ Radius, not 0′ (10′ Radius), or Self (10′ Radius), or Melee (Radius 10′). This means that the spell provokes Free Strikes when cast. From my read of the rules, you only get the Free Strikes on INITIAL casting and not with sustaining, but it does make logical sense that this spell would provoke Free Strikes upon sustaining because you need to concentrate on maintaining the bubble, which means you are less able to avoid damage.

Food for thought. . .

Given the inconsistency between 0′ (10′ Radius) and Self (10′ Radius) which mean the same, I would be very surprised if 10′ Radius wasn’t the same thing. It’s not a X’ (10′ Radius) so there’s no Free Strike.

John

If it does not have range 0′, Self, or Melee, then it DOES provoke. As written, the spell provokes Free Strikes.

I would wager quite a bit that the absence of 0′ or Self is a typo in this spell and other spells that list just a Radius and no range. Unless you’re going to start letting casters use these spells at an arbitrary range they are obviously centered on the Caster.

John

Either that, or it was designed from the get-go to provoke and the lack of a 0/self/melee was intentional to reflect this. We need to have the rules-guys state one way or another, but as written right now it provokes.

That’s a very obscure and confusing way to indicate that if that was the intent.

John

I would say that our tables have basically run it the same as Josh did.

The issue of push through also comes up with some of the Wards such as ward against the Unnatural. I believe that we assigned a speed of 2 to push through as an incidental addition to their action if the action succeed or failed.

One does not suffer a Free Strike for sustaining a spell (unless performing some other action that qualifies), and as written, Radius Spells provoke upon casting.

Just to clarify, the spells that just specify Range: X’ Radius (which by default extends from the caster) are separate “ranges” from 0′ (X’ Radius) and Self (X’ Radius) and provoke Free Strikes? Just double checking. Thanks

In addition, could you elaborate on the spell in question regarding “Initial targets” and targets that encounter the radius after casting?

John