Flaw – corrupt

I agree with that it’s a bad mechanic to fight your own discipline. There is precident for it in another flaw though I believe.

I’m unsure why this is a bad mechanic? It fits with the flavor, as you’re struggling against your own instincts to avoid doing something you know might be a problem for yourself or your companions. As you get more powerful, the temptation for power or for getting your own way increases (Which also makes it a flaw that doesn’t become obsolete at Tier 2 or so).

I’m still not sure why this is a bad mechanic. Do you have another suggestion that would work?

More importantly, when can I bribe someone?

Example – At the end of the mod where you are taking the old Illiirite to turn in his holy symbol. If there is a party member in the group with corrupt, can I pay them to help me kill him?

Example – We find loot that I want, can I pay another player not to want it?

Example – Elements of Faith, can I pay a party member to harm Elorii/Milandisian relations? Even after fighting the Voluri?

Example – You come across the Tear of Larissa’s Laments, can a pay a player who full well wants to give it to his church or people to destroy it instead?

I would never allow other PC’s to take advantage of the Flaw for their own ends. Now, if the PC with Corrupt *wants* to accept the bribe (and take the offered item(s)) that’s fine, but it should never result in an automatic triggering of the flaw or even a roll. Just like a PC that’s a member of a society/organization can’t just kill another PC with Marked Man like an NPC would.

John

Mettle vs TN 15 + what ever, is this really supposed to be a routine type check? flaws are supposed to be detrimental…

in the very least I think it should be a 20 or 25.

and then, i think that +1 tn per 1 gp makes more sense

Pedro
I like the idea of Personality Flaws that give you Fate when you voluntarily stick to it. However, if a Flaw is going to give you a Talent (Which I like) then it has to have *some* mechanical drawback as well. If Flaws are just “Everyone has one so pick it now and RP it up for bonus Fate”, that’s cool, but I would allow everyone to choose 3 Talents during Character Generation (Since most everyone takes a flaw for one anyways).

John

a digression to the purpose of the thread

Mettle vs TN 15 + what ever, is this really supposed to be a routine type check? flaws are supposed to be detrimental…

in the very least I think it should be a 20 or 25.

and then, i think that +1 tn per 1 gp makes more sense

still i think that going against your own discipine is a bad mechanic

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Corrupt
Change the effect of this flaw to the following

Effect: Whenever you are offered a bribe you will always accept it (but may negotiate the amount) and do what is asked unless it would directly result in your own arrest or injury/ death.
For example, if bribed to open the gates of Grand Coryan to an invading army, you will do so and expect to be able to escape or be protected.
A hero may attempt to resist the bribe by preforming a Metal (Re) action skill roll against their discipline defense. This TN may go up or down depending upon the size of the bribe. Commonly any gold above the hero’s tier results in a -1 per gold to the hero’s action skill roll, with smaller bribes possibility being perceived as an insult with every silver below the heroes Tier in gold resulting in a +1 bonus per silver.

This seems confusing to me. Maybe simplify:

A hero may attempt to resist the bribe by preforming a Mettle (Re) action skill roll against their own Discipline defense. A bonus or penalty to this roll may be applied depending upon the size of the bribe. The base size of a bribe is 1 GP / Hero Tier. Commonly, there is a -1 penalty to the Mettle roll for every 10 sp above the base size, and a +1 bonus to the Mettle roll for every 10 sp below the base size, as smaller bribes may be perceived as an insult.

The idea of rolling against my own discipline is a bad mechanic, because by improving a defense I am hurting myself. It puts players in an odd situation where they have to pick and choose protecting my mind and saving myself from a flaw.

Also, I changed “base bribe” to “base size” so it’s consistent everywhere in my writeup.